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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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      @hobbit666 said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

      Do you need a windows domain if the business needs to set access rights to files/folders?

      No, domains are not a requirement for any function. There's really nothing that needs a domain. File serving was a feature of Windows OSes nearly a decade before they even introduced domains.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @hobbit666
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        @hobbit666 said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

        I've only never used Windows Domains so be interesting to see other solutions.

        There's no "solution" needed, the domain gives no functionality to this equation. It's like saying you're only seen file sharing while eating cookies and wonder what other solution is out there. But you can simply... not have cookies and everything keeps working because the cookie that you are eating isn't providing any of the functionality, it's just something "happening at the same time."

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

          OK this post has turned into rambling... I wonder how well a SAMBA domain hosted on say Vultr, with ZT used to connect all clients with the domain, then local NAS/server for fast local storage of large files?

          Exactly the same as a Windows DC hosted there.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

            @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

            OK this post has turned into rambling... I wonder how well a SAMBA domain hosted on say Vultr, with ZT used to connect all clients with the domain, then local NAS/server for fast local storage of large files?

            Exactly the same as a Windows DC hosted there.

            That's not saying much - because I've never done that and have no idea how good or not it would work.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

              @scottalanmiller said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

              @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

              OK this post has turned into rambling... I wonder how well a SAMBA domain hosted on say Vultr, with ZT used to connect all clients with the domain, then local NAS/server for fast local storage of large files?

              Exactly the same as a Windows DC hosted there.

              That's not saying much - because I've never done that and have no idea how good or not it would work.

              It will work just fine. but it will never be a fast solution for large CAD or Video files.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                @scottalanmiller said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                OK this post has turned into rambling... I wonder how well a SAMBA domain hosted on say Vultr, with ZT used to connect all clients with the domain, then local NAS/server for fast local storage of large files?

                Exactly the same as a Windows DC hosted there.

                That's not saying much - because I've never done that and have no idea how good or not it would work.

                It will work just fine. but it will never be a fast solution for large CAD or Video files.

                I wasn't mentioning it for the CAD/large files portion - only for the user/PC management portion... I still fully expect them to have some type of on prem storage solution for large files.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                  @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                  @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                  OK this post has turned into rambling... I wonder how well a SAMBA domain hosted on say Vultr, with ZT used to connect all clients with the domain, then local NAS/server for fast local storage of large files?

                  Exactly the same as a Windows DC hosted there.

                  That's not saying much - because I've never done that and have no idea how good or not it would work.

                  It will work just fine. but it will never be a fast solution for large CAD or Video files.

                  It's be just fine. The domain services over VPN will be milliseconds of delay once in a while, with the NAS still local, all of the CAD performance will be just as fast. There's extremely tiny amounts of authentication traffic for large file transfers like that.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                    @JaredBusch said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                    @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                    @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                    OK this post has turned into rambling... I wonder how well a SAMBA domain hosted on say Vultr, with ZT used to connect all clients with the domain, then local NAS/server for fast local storage of large files?

                    Exactly the same as a Windows DC hosted there.

                    That's not saying much - because I've never done that and have no idea how good or not it would work.

                    It will work just fine. but it will never be a fast solution for large CAD or Video files.

                    It's be just fine. The domain services over VPN will be milliseconds of delay once in a while, with the NAS still local, all of the CAD performance will be just as fast. There's extremely tiny amounts of authentication traffic for large file transfers like that.

                    Misread his question.

                    Yes. that will work like any remote office where the DC is in the head office over VPN.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                      @JaredBusch said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                      @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                      @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                      OK this post has turned into rambling... I wonder how well a SAMBA domain hosted on say Vultr, with ZT used to connect all clients with the domain, then local NAS/server for fast local storage of large files?

                      Exactly the same as a Windows DC hosted there.

                      That's not saying much - because I've never done that and have no idea how good or not it would work.

                      It will work just fine. but it will never be a fast solution for large CAD or Video files.

                      It's be just fine. The domain services over VPN will be milliseconds of delay once in a while, with the NAS still local, all of the CAD performance will be just as fast. There's extremely tiny amounts of authentication traffic for large file transfers like that.

                      It's the whole ZT/DNS issues that I would mainly be concerned about. I know DC authentication over VPN works very well, I'm doing it now, have been for nearly 20 years.
                      But I don't have multi-homed servers, and when I tested ZT in the past, machines having two IPs (LAN and ZT) it caused issues.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                        It's the whole ZT/DNS

                        @Dashrender said in Pre-Planning new domain and environment:

                        and when I tested ZT in the past,

                        It is just DNS. You have to have it on EVERYTHING if you go that route.

                        Or, you make the ZT network the same subnet and not different.

                        Just take your 10.0.0.0/24 and make it a 10.0.0.0/23 instead.
                        have the local DHCP server hand out 10.0.0.101-254
                        have ZT DHCP hand out 10.0.1.101-254

                        or use ZT Bridging
                        Lots of ways to skin the cat.

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