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    • GreyG
      Grey @brandon220
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      @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

      My idea is:

      Option 1:
      Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
      Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) with 16 Tb of storage and Plex on that same VM.
      This way, the data never leaves the host and has maximum efficiency.
      OR

      Option 2:
      Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
      Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) as a "NAS" with NFS shares for content.
      Point existing Plex Vm at the new NAS.
      Data would traverse network between 2 hosts unless Plex was migrated to other host.

      I have option 2, but CentOS 7 and only one host with all my guests.

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      • M
        marcinozga @brandon220
        last edited by

        @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

        My idea is:

        Option 1:
        Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
        Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) with 16 Tb of storage and Plex on that same VM.
        This way, the data never leaves the host and has maximum efficiency.
        OR

        Option 2:
        Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
        Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) as a "NAS" with NFS shares for content.
        Point existing Plex Vm at the new NAS.
        Data would traverse network between 2 hosts unless Plex was migrated to other host.

        Option 1. Less complexity, less things to fail. Although I prefer containers rather than VM.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @brandon220
          last edited by

          @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

          My idea is:

          Option 1:
          Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
          Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) with 16 Tb of storage and Plex on that same VM.
          This way, the data never leaves the host and has maximum efficiency.
          OR

          Option 2:
          Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
          Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) as a "NAS" with NFS shares for content.
          Point existing Plex Vm at the new NAS.
          Data would traverse network between 2 hosts unless Plex was migrated to other host.

          What about Option 3:
          Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend.

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          • brandon220B
            brandon220 @travisdh1
            last edited by

            @travisdh1 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

            What about Option 3:
            Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend.

            I thought about this too. Could set up another virtual switch between the NAS and Plex. It makes the most sense actually.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

              Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend.

              That is what I do.
              a4573112-c6bd-497f-ba4d-6085d363363e-image.png

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              • brandon220B
                brandon220 @JaredBusch
                last edited by brandon220

                @JaredBusch said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                @travisdh1 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend.

                That is what I do.
                a4573112-c6bd-497f-ba4d-6085d363363e-image.png

                Do you just have those 2 VMs on a host by themselves? I see that they are the only 2 listed after the list -all command.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @brandon220
                  last edited by

                  @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                  @JaredBusch said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                  @travisdh1 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                  Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend.

                  That is what I do.
                  a4573112-c6bd-497f-ba4d-6085d363363e-image.png

                  Do you just have those 2 VMs on a host by themselves? I see that they are the only 2 listed after the list -all command.

                  Only because I do not need anything else at home.

                  I have a host in colo for work stuff and then Vultr for things.

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                  • brandon220B
                    brandon220 @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch I have Hyper-V at home with Nginx, Nextcloud, Bookstack, PiHole, and Plex. Don't have a colo close enough. My internet service with 1 static is cheaper than the cost of colo.

                    I haven't had a good enough reason to move away from Hyper-V yet. I always contemplate it. I've had a spare server with KVM in my lab and it was great and light on resources.

                    What made you switch from Hyper-V?

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                    • brandon220B
                      brandon220 @brandon220
                      last edited by

                      I do have my Unifi controller on Vultr and use it for "lab" if I need a public IP for various stuff. I plan on setting up a FreePBX instance for testing but haven't yet.

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @brandon220
                        last edited by

                        @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                        @JaredBusch I have Hyper-V at home with Nginx, Nextcloud, Bookstack, PiHole, and Plex. Don't have a colo close enough. My internet service with 1 static is cheaper than the cost of colo.

                        I haven't had a good enough reason to move away from Hyper-V yet. I always contemplate it. I've had a spare server with KVM in my lab and it was great and light on resources.

                        What made you switch from Hyper-V?

                        I went from Hyper-V (Desktop), Fedora KVM (Desktop,R710) and now using Proxmox (R710). Proxmox is by far the most convenient one for my home environment.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                          last edited by

                          @black3dynamite said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                          @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                          @JaredBusch I have Hyper-V at home with Nginx, Nextcloud, Bookstack, PiHole, and Plex. Don't have a colo close enough. My internet service with 1 static is cheaper than the cost of colo.

                          I haven't had a good enough reason to move away from Hyper-V yet. I always contemplate it. I've had a spare server with KVM in my lab and it was great and light on resources.

                          What made you switch from Hyper-V?

                          I went from Hyper-V (Desktop), Fedora KVM (Desktop,R710) and now using Proxmox (R710). Proxmox is by far the most convenient one for my home environment.

                          Same here, more or less. Same conclusion.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @brandon220
                            last edited by

                            @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                            My idea is:

                            Option 1:
                            Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
                            Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) with 16 Tb of storage and Plex on that same VM.
                            This way, the data never leaves the host and has maximum efficiency.
                            OR

                            Option 2:
                            Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
                            Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) as a "NAS" with NFS shares for content.
                            Point existing Plex Vm at the new NAS.
                            Data would traverse network between 2 hosts unless Plex was migrated to other host.

                            Yes, why wouldn't you do the bolded part - which is what other people are now calling option 3 LOL

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                            • brandon220B
                              brandon220
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                              I've been using Hyper-V for a while, almost exclusively. I use it at work, and for other clients. I have not found a good enough reason to switch over to another hypervisor. Sadly, its the only real reason I still keep a Windows laptop - to manage Hyper-V. Windows Admin Center is a dumpster fire IMO. All my HV installs are non-GUI.

                              I had Proxmox running in my lab for a while with a few test VMs and it worked great. I just have flashbacks of many people being against it for so long. I know that is not a valid reason to not use something but...

                              Again, with HV being free and having no issues with it - makes it hard to justify switching, although the web management of Proxmox would be nice. Another advantage of HV is that Veeam works so well with it.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @brandon220
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                                @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                                I just have flashbacks of many people being against it for so long.

                                Because it sucked. But....
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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @brandon220
                                  last edited by

                                  @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                                  Sadly, its the only real reason I still keep a Windows laptop - to manage Hyper-V.

                                  This is why I do not use it.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                                    @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                                    Sadly, its the only real reason I still keep a Windows laptop - to manage Hyper-V.

                                    This is why I do not use it.

                                    This is something MS is just totally failing at with Hyper-V.

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                                    • brandon220B
                                      brandon220
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                                      KVM with Cockpit could be perfect if it were a bit more polished.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @brandon220
                                        last edited by

                                        @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                                        KVM with Cockpit could be perfect if it were a bit more polished.

                                        It's getting there. But ProxMox has just so much more at this point.

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                                        • GreyG
                                          Grey @brandon220
                                          last edited by

                                          @brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:

                                          I've been using Hyper-V for a while, almost exclusively. I use it at work, and for other clients. I have not found a good enough reason to switch over to another hypervisor. Sadly, its the only real reason I still keep a Windows laptop - to manage Hyper-V. Windows Admin Center is a dumpster fire IMO. All my HV installs are non-GUI.

                                          You can install pwsh on linux and then use powershell to your nano hyper-v.

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                                          • brandon220B
                                            brandon220 @Grey
                                            last edited by brandon220

                                            @Grey I'll have to give it a try. Could also run W10 as a VM on Fedora Workstation...

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