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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22
      last edited by wirestyle22

      How would I go about optimizing the GUI in a Fedora 31 VM when I am not compositing through a GPU? Are there standard practices to reduce animations etc within gnome/cinnamon? Currently Windows 10 RDP works incredibly well but trying to load Gnome or Fedora has been much slower.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        The MOST common practice is to not use a GPU-based desktop. LXQt, XFCE, MATE, etc. are entire environments designed for that purpose.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

          The MOST common practice is to not use a GPU-based desktop. LXQt, XFCE, MATE, etc. are entire environments designed for that purpose.

          There are no real changes I can make to just reduce the load though and still use fedora?

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          • black3dynamiteB
            black3dynamite
            last edited by black3dynamite

            If you really want an optimize GUI, use windows managers exclusively.
            https://fedoramagazine.org/5-cool-tiling-window-managers/
            https://fedoramagazine.org/getting-started-i3-window-manager/
            https://fedoramagazine.org/setting-up-the-sway-window-manager-on-fedora/
            https://fedoramagazine.org/lets-try-dwm-dynamic-window-manger/

            A full list of Window Managers
            https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_manager

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              The KDE and Gnome 3 based desktops are built with the assumption that you will have a lot of horsepower in the GPU. It gives them a big advantage on standard hardware.

              If you need alternative hardware or a VM, trying to "tune" a GPU focused desktop doesn't make as much sense as choosing a desktop designed from the ground up for that particular need.

              Even a Raspberry Pi has a good GPU and handles Gnome 3 well.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                last edited by

                @wirestyle22 said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                @scottalanmiller said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                The MOST common practice is to not use a GPU-based desktop. LXQt, XFCE, MATE, etc. are entire environments designed for that purpose.

                There are no real changes I can make to just reduce the load though and still use fedora?

                No one mentioned an alternative to Fedora. Everything we are talking about is ways of setting up Fedora.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Example...

                  https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    On a VM, XFCE is a really good choice. It's just so much lighter. But still attractive and works well.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      If you have Gnome 3, install gnome-tweak-tool.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Screenshot from 2020-02-27 13-31-45.png

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Not a lot of tweaking to be done. Removing animations definitely helps. But other than that, the desktop is what it is.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                            Currently Windows 10 RDP works incredibly well but trying to loan Gnome or Fedora has been much slower.

                            What is the point here. What are you "trying to learn" in a GUI?

                            You do not "learn" desktop environments. You simply use them. If your desktop environment requires a lot of education to use, it is shit and you need to choose another one.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                              You do not "learn" desktop environments. You simply use them. If your desktop environment requires a lot of education to use, it is shit and you need to choose another one.

                              cough macOS cough

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                                What is the point here. What are you "trying to learn" in a GUI?

                                Jared is correct. Outside of two minutes to learn where the start button is and what the theme looks like, there is no learning of a desktop, any desktop. It's not only not an IT skill, it's not a power user skill, or even an end user skill.

                                It would be similar to "learning a writing utensil". But pen, pencil, crayon... once you know how to write you don't learn a new one, you just use it.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                                  What is the point here. What are you "trying to learn" in a GUI?

                                  Jared is correct. Outside of two minutes to learn where the start button is and what the theme looks like, there is no learning of a desktop, any desktop. It's not only not an IT skill, it's not a power user skill, or even an end user skill.

                                  It would be similar to "learning a writing utensil". But pen, pencil, crayon... once you know how to write you don't learn a new one, you just use it.

                                  I was just curious if anyone knew of anything else. Can't know without asking

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates
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                                    If you're looking to learn about it, dconf is where you set the properties for GNOME 3. Tweak tool exposes a small number of these. Dconf-editor will give a gui tool to manage all of the settings or you can manage them through normal dump configs in /etc/dconf/db/ and then the database directory you want to manage.

                                    Use the dump directories if you want to automate things like login messages, disabling the picker for usernames to force typing it in, disabling the power button without signing in, etc.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                                      The MOST common practice is to not use a GPU-based desktop. LXQt, XFCE, MATE, etc. are entire environments designed for that purpose.

                                      There are no real changes I can make to just reduce the load though and still use fedora?

                                      No one mentioned an alternative to Fedora. Everything we are talking about is ways of setting up Fedora.

                                      I meant Gnome, just misspoke

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by

                                        @stacksofplates said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                                        If you're looking to learn about it, dconf is where you set the properties for GNOME 3. Tweak tool exposes a small number of these. Dconf-editor will give a gui tool to manage all of the settings or you can manage them through normal dump configs in /etc/dconf/db/ and then the database directory you want to manage.

                                        Use the dump directories if you want to automate things like login messages, disabling the picker for usernames to force typing it in, disabling the power button without signing in, etc.

                                        Thanks

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Optimizing Fedora 31 VM w/GUI for remote access:

                                          Currently Windows 10 RDP works incredibly well but trying to loan Gnome or Fedora has been much slower.

                                          What is the point here. What are you "trying to learn" in a GUI?

                                          You do not "learn" desktop environments. You simply use them. If your desktop environment requires a lot of education to use, it is shit and you need to choose another one.

                                          load, not learn. I typo'd

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