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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @black3dynamite
      last edited by JaredBusch

      @black3dynamite said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

      There's a firewall setting at the Datacenter (cluster) level, for each PVE hosts and for each VM/Container.

      I get reasons that it could be beneficial. But for the typical SMB, that should never really happen.

      I did say I have not RTFM at all yet.

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      • jclambertJ
        jclambert
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        I haven't played with it for over 5 years. I never got past a brief test, as I relocated to TX for a new position.

        It seems others have found it effective however.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @jclambert
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          @jclambert said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

          I haven't played with it for over 5 years. I never got past a brief test, as I relocated to TX for a new position.

          It seems others have found it effective however.

          5 years ago I would not ever touch ProxMox. It was a pile of flaming garbage.

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          • hobbit666H
            hobbit666
            last edited by hobbit666

            Tried installing last night, but gave up. Don't think it likes my motherboard SATA.
            Complained about not finding HD

            Couldn't be bothered working it out so went back to ESXi :).

            May try again if i bring a Dell T server home with me in the new year.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @hobbit666
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              @hobbit666 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

              Tried installing last night, but gave up. Don't think it likes my motherboard SATA.
              Complained about not finding HD

              Couldn't be bothered working it out so went back to ESXi :).

              May try again if i bring a Dell T server home with me in the new year.

              I assume this means you were trying on an old desktop? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't package drivers in for old/consumer equipment as their goal is clearly targeting the business market - for production use.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @hobbit666
                last edited by

                @hobbit666 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                Tried installing last night, but gave up. Don't think it likes my motherboard SATA.
                Complained about not finding HD

                Couldn't be bothered working it out so went back to ESXi :).

                May try again if i bring a Dell T server home with me in the new year.

                It runs perfectly fine on my Dell Inspiron Laptop from 2017. Just have to use the USB to Ethernet.

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                • hobbit666H
                  hobbit666 @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                  I assume this means you were trying on an old desktop? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't package drivers in for old/consumer equipment as their goal is clearly targeting the business market - for production use.

                  Yeah Dell Precision T7500 Tower

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                  • jt1001001J
                    jt1001001 @hobbit666
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                    @hobbit666 I had it working on a T7500, I had to change something in the bios to see the sata port can't remember what and the machine's in the office; I'll look next time i'm in there (Friday)

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite @jt1001001
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                      @jt1001001 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                      @hobbit666 I had it working on a T7500, I had to change something in the bios to see the sata port can't remember what and the machine's in the office; I'll look next time i'm in there (Friday)

                      I think I had to do something similiar with Power Edge 2950 Gen 3.

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                      • hobbit666H
                        hobbit666 @jt1001001
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                        @jt1001001 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                        @hobbit666 I had it working on a T7500, I had to change something in the bios to see the sata port can't remember what and the machine's in the office; I'll look next time i'm in there (Friday)

                        Yeah thought it might be just a setting.
                        I do have some spare RAID cards somewhere so might try one.

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                          1337 @jt1001001
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                          @jt1001001 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                          @hobbit666 I had it working on a T7500, I had to change something in the bios to see the sata port can't remember what and the machine's in the office; I'll look next time i'm in there (Friday)

                          Probably AHCI.

                          ahci.jpg

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            If you want to use replication, you are required to setup the system with ZFS based storage, not LVM-thin (the default).
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                            https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Storage_Replication

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              Nice to see the SSD wearout info handily though.
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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @JaredBusch
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                @JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                If you want to use replication, you are required to setup the system with ZFS based storage, not LVM-thin (the default).

                                So I wiped and reinstalled as ZFS.

                                Replication going.
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                                VM 100 is not running yet, because I am still importing the VM disks.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch what is the storage system like that you're using? BYOD without an raid card or are you bypassing it?

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                    @JaredBusch what is the storage system like that you're using? BYOD without an raid card or are you bypassing it?

                                    This is a test system until the servers arrive in a couple weeks.
                                    Old desktop with 2 SSD and old laptop with an SSD.
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                                    Chose ZFS RAID0 during setup as I will use that on the live system. Because the live system will be hardware RAID.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                      Because the live system will be hardware RAID.

                                      Just a heads up you can't use Hardware RAID and ZFS pools, I attempted this and the entire system baulked.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        What you would need to do would be a small Raid 1 and use the remaining drives for the ZFS pool.

                                        If you wanted any redundancy at the hypervisor.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                          Because the live system will be hardware RAID.

                                          Just a heads up you can't use Hardware RAID and ZFS pools, I attempted this and the entire system baulked.

                                          I don't want ZFS at all. But PM requires it for replication.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                            I don't want ZFS at all.

                                            That's fine

                                            @JaredBusch said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                            But PM requires it for replication.

                                            PM doesn't support replication with hardware raid backed arrays. You'd have to install outside of the primary intended storage and then create your ZFS pool using the unused drives.

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