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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

      A quick google search for web db apps turned up Appgini https://bigprof.com/appgini/

      Anyone used this? Or have something similar they can recommend?

      What I don't want is to have to manually build a webpage by hand from PHP, etc to collect data then display the data in reports of my choosing.

      That looks really nice and is only $80 forever. or $80 one and then $0 per year for upgrades.

      They have a free trial, but don't mention WTF the limit/differences are for the free trial.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

        Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

        This doens't look bad either. But those limits feel low. But I guess with no limit to the bases, you could get used to jsut replicating things yearly or something and get around that.

        https://airtable.com/pricing

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

          @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

          Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

          This doens't look bad either. But those limits feel low. But I guess with no limit to the bases, you could get used to jsut replicating things yearly or something and get around that.

          https://airtable.com/pricing

          Yeah I've only used it for small stuff so I haven't went above the limitations.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates
            last edited by

            One other plus to it is the native app. It works pretty well.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @stacksofplates
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              @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

              Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

              Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

              yup, guessed it
              0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender that's a costly offering. I bet, though, if someone really needed it, that they would do it. It just costs a lot.

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                  @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                  Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                  Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                  yup, guessed it
                  0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                  You are trying to design something in house to store PHI? 🤦

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                    @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                    Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                    Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                    yup, guessed it
                    0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                    Well I mean that seems like it should have been mentioned in the op?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                      @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                      @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                      Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                      Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                      yup, guessed it
                      0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                      You are trying to design something in house to store PHI? 🤦

                      We already do - it's called an excel spreadsheet.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
                        last edited by

                        I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                          @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                          @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                          @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                          Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                          Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                          yup, guessed it
                          0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                          You are trying to design something in house to store PHI? 🤦

                          We already do - it's called an excel spreadsheet.

                          Excel spreadsheet and web app are totally different. Web apps have so many more component and holes in them that you have to be worried about.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                            @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                            @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                            Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                            Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                            yup, guessed it
                            0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                            Well I mean that seems like it should have been mentioned in the op?

                            It kind of is. "At this time." Anyone who understands what it would cost will know to reach out. Anyone who thinks that they should reach out and find out what it will cost, won't be happy with the answer.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @IRJ
                              last edited by

                              @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                              I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                              This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                🤦

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                  @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                  @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                  @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                  Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                                  Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                                  yup, guessed it
                                  0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                                  Well I mean that seems like it should have been mentioned in the op?

                                  It kind of is. "At this time." Anyone who understands what it would cost will know to reach out. Anyone who thinks that they should reach out and find out what it will cost, won't be happy with the answer.

                                  What are you talking about? I'm saying if he needed his app to be HIPAA compliant he should have mentioned it in the op.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                    @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                    I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                    This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                    Excel has that code review, and depends 100% on Windows OS security.

                                    I think IRJ is really referring to bespoke networked software. If you were making a notepad replacement that just highlighted certain phrases and only edited local text files that are already protected by the OS... I don't think that that is what he means.

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                      @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                      @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                      I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                      This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                      Excel has that code review, and depends 100% on Windows OS security.

                                      Yes

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @IRJ
                                        last edited by

                                        @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                        @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                        @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                        I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                        This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                        🤦

                                        Well - I still don't make the decisions.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @IRJ
                                          last edited by

                                          @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                          @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                          @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                          I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                          This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                          Excel has that code review, and depends 100% on Windows OS security.

                                          Yes

                                          Interesting - so you don't consider any software that hasn't gone through code review good enough to store PHI or PCI, etc type data?

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                            This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                            Excel has that code review, and depends 100% on Windows OS security.

                                            Yes

                                            Interesting - so you don't consider any software that hasn't gone through code review good enough to store PHI or PCI, etc type data?

                                            Yup.

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