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    • G I JonesG
      G I Jones
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      As the title suggests the new Guest (Exchange 2016 Server) keeps going down unexpectedly and about once a day. I don't know if it's the whole host, or the Guest itself as I don't notice it until I get calls about Outlook not connecting, but I'm finding no reason or cause.

      I've checked Event Viewer>Windows Logs>System and found:

      "Error - EventLog - The previous shut down at 8:59:29 AM on 2/4/2020 was unexpected"

      Looking through the logs, there's a gap from 8:44:50 - 9:37:33; Probably when I realized it was down and restarted the Guest. The last log at 8:44 is just a Windows Update service information log. Nothing stands out to me as being off, and checking the iDRAC I found everything to be in order as well.

      What would be some steps you might take to troubleshoot this?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @G I Jones
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        @G-I-Jones Are the guest drivers installed, is your host up to date, have you installed updates on the guest?

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        • G I JonesG
          G I Jones @DustinB3403
          last edited by G I Jones

          @DustinB3403 said in New VM keeps turning off:

          @G-I-Jones Are the guest drivers installed, is your host up to date, have you installed updates on the guest?

          Host is up-to-date for sure. I just installed updates to the Guest right before replying to this, are you thinking it's a bad update or lack of? Not too sure what drivers you mean.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @G I Jones
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            @G-I-Jones What hypervisor are you using?

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            • G I JonesG
              G I Jones @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in New VM keeps turning off:

              @G-I-Jones What hypervisor are you using?

              Dell OEM ESXi 6.7 Update 2

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                Did you install the ESXi Guest drivers (the guest should auto-detect and install them) but it may not have. Click on your VM's disk drive and mount the guest additions iso.

                You can check the hardware manager as well to see if there are ESXi or Citrix devices listed in there.

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                • G I JonesG
                  G I Jones @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in New VM keeps turning off:

                  Did you install the ESXi Guest drivers (the guest should auto-detect and install them) but it may not have. Click on your VM's disk drive and mount the guest additions iso.

                  You can check the hardware manager as well to see if there are ESXi or Citrix devices listed in there.

                  Are we talking about VMWare Tools again? If so, check that box.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @G I Jones
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                    @G-I-Jones said in New VM keeps turning off:

                    VMWare Tools

                    Yes.

                    If the guest has the drivers installed, it may be worth enabling verbose logging so you get some more details from the system.

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                    • G I JonesG
                      G I Jones @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in New VM keeps turning off:

                      @G-I-Jones said in New VM keeps turning off:

                      VMWare Tools

                      Yes.

                      If the guest has the drivers installed, it may be worth enabling verbose logging so you get some more details from the system.

                      Thanks, I'll do that now.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        You could try NirSoft BlueScreenView as well, not sure if it'll be able to produce much of anything besides what you've already seen in the logs of "the previous shutdown was unexpected"

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite
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                          UEFI or BIOS VM?
                          If UEFI, is secure boot enabled?

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                          • G I JonesG
                            G I Jones @black3dynamite
                            last edited by

                            @black3dynamite said in New VM keeps turning off:

                            UEFI or BIOS VM?
                            If UEFI, is secure boot enabled?

                            UEFI, Secure Boot is Disabled

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                            • EddieJenningsE
                              EddieJennings
                              last edited by

                              You've likely checked for this, but are there events in the Application logs that talk about a bugcheck around the time of the shutdown, or does a C:\Windows\Memory.dmp file exist that was created around that time?

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                              • pmonchoP
                                pmoncho @G I Jones
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                                @G-I-Jones said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                @black3dynamite said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                UEFI or BIOS VM?
                                If UEFI, is secure boot enabled?

                                UEFI, Secure Boot is Disabled

                                You may want to go into (on the guest) System Properties -> Advanced Tab -> Startup and Recovery -> Uncheck "Automatically Restart"

                                That way if you get BSOD, you can see it on the screen.

                                Then look for the memory dump like @EddieJennings stated. Then use program @DustinB3403 mentioned to figure out WTH is going on.

                                If you don't know if it is the whole host, whip up a linux machine real quick and let it run. If the Exchange server halts, see if you can still access the linux machine. Just an option.

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                                • G I JonesG
                                  G I Jones @EddieJennings
                                  last edited by

                                  @EddieJennings said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                  You've likely checked for this, but are there events in the Application logs that talk about a bugcheck around the time of the shutdown, or does a C:\Windows\Memory.dmp file exist that was created around that time?

                                  There were no events about a bugcheck around the time of the shutdown. Something I do find curious though, is the fact there isn't a %SYSTEMROOT%\MEMORY.DMP file at all.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @G I Jones
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                                    @G-I-Jones said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                    @EddieJennings said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                    You've likely checked for this, but are there events in the Application logs that talk about a bugcheck around the time of the shutdown, or does a C:\Windows\Memory.dmp file exist that was created around that time?

                                    There were no events about a bugcheck around the time of the shutdown. Something I do find curious though, is the fact there isn't a %SYSTEMROOT%\MEMORY.DMP file at all.

                                    There usually isn't if verbose logging isn't enabled with these types of crashes.

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                                    • G I JonesG
                                      G I Jones @pmoncho
                                      last edited by

                                      @pmoncho said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                      @G-I-Jones said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                      @black3dynamite said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                      UEFI or BIOS VM?
                                      If UEFI, is secure boot enabled?

                                      UEFI, Secure Boot is Disabled

                                      You may want to go into (on the guest) System Properties -> Advanced Tab -> Startup and Recovery -> Uncheck "Automatically Restart"

                                      That way if you get BSOD, you can see it on the screen.

                                      Then look for the memory dump like @EddieJennings stated. Then use program @DustinB3403 mentioned to figure out WTH is going on.

                                      If you don't know if it is the whole host, whip up a linux machine real quick and let it run. If the Exchange server halts, see if you can still access the linux machine. Just an option.

                                      Will do, thanks for the tips.

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                                      • G I JonesG
                                        G I Jones @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                        @G-I-Jones said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                        @EddieJennings said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                        You've likely checked for this, but are there events in the Application logs that talk about a bugcheck around the time of the shutdown, or does a C:\Windows\Memory.dmp file exist that was created around that time?

                                        There were no events about a bugcheck around the time of the shutdown. Something I do find curious though, is the fact there isn't a %SYSTEMROOT%\MEMORY.DMP file at all.

                                        There usually isn't if verbose logging isn't enabled with these types of crashes.

                                        Ah, well it is now, so time will tell I suppose. Thanks again.

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                                        • EddieJenningsE
                                          EddieJennings @G I Jones
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                                          @G-I-Jones said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                          @EddieJennings said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                          You've likely checked for this, but are there events in the Application logs that talk about a bugcheck around the time of the shutdown, or does a C:\Windows\Memory.dmp file exist that was created around that time?

                                          There were no events about a bugcheck around the time of the shutdown. Something I do find curious though, is the fact there isn't a %SYSTEMROOT%\MEMORY.DMP file at all.

                                          You usually only see it if there was a bugcheck, blue screen, and then it's not 100% of the time -- at least in my experience. So I was curious if on the off chance there was one that you could investigate.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @G I Jones
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                                            @G-I-Jones said in New VM keeps turning off:

                                            I don't know if it's the whole host, or the Guest itself as I don't notice it until I get calls about Outlook not connecting, but I'm finding no reason or cause.

                                            Have you determined if the whole ESXi host is doing down?

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