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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller @Obsolesce
      last edited by MattSpeller

      @Tim_G said in Fitness and Weightloss:

      @NDC said in Fitness and Weightloss:

      @Tim_G
      This is a pretty well known strategy. It is essentially the goal of any low carb diet. It induces a state called ketosis. Some diets are more extreme than others in pursuing the effect. The version @matteo-nunziati describes is on one end of the spectrum.

      Also keep in mind it is difficult to avoid carbs altogether. Basically all vegetables include at least some. You may not typically think about your carb intake when eating green beans but it's there.

      If you cut out carbs, you're in for a rough ride. Not only is it unhealthy to cut out essential carbs, but you'll most likely end up caving eventually... and gain your weight back.

      As far as a "crash diet" strategy goes the zero carbs all protein and fats one is the way to go. Once you get into ketosis your body just RIPS through fat. Good F*(@! luck keeping it up over any length of time though. Also this is the diet that is best known for having people gain weight - if you screw up, your body drops out of ketosis and just SLAMS all that fat and protein into fat cells.

      Source: I work with athletes at an olympic level + chat with nutritionists. Do not recommend (the diet).

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
        last edited by

        Also, worth mentioning... is that if you find a diet and exercise that works, you can stick to, and gives good results without killing your health... then by all means do it.

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        • NDCN
          NDC
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          @Tim_G

          I am in no way advocating that level of extreme. Nor do I think was @matteo-nunziati hence the disclaimer at the end of his post.

          I personally bounced off a low-carb diet at one point probably because it was encouraging a point further along the line than was good for me.

          Just adding some context for those interested in how/why something like that works.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce
            last edited by Obsolesce

            For anyone interested in a program that works, check out The Truth About Strength Training. Note, it's not just about strength training.

            I've personally done it a few times, and I've recommended it a number of times and heard positive results. And no, I'm not affiliated in any way. I'm just pointing out a program that works, without any kind of extreme restrictions. In fact, all you do is eat well, exercise, and of course get decent sleep.... you may have to cut some bad habits, but you can have some cheat meals 🙂

            When I have a question, he's good with answering back too.... even to this day. I bought it years ago.

            I'd give my copy out for free, but that's illegal, and I really respect the time and info inside of it. It's definitely worth it, even if just for the info alone.

            People spend more than this on a case of beer... why not spend it on something that is actually good for your body instead?

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            • matteo nunziatiM
              matteo nunziati @NDC
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              @NDC yeah! I just know she did this on the basis of some chemical reasoning. My only chemistry exam at university was madness. Also the diet is expected to be a 6-9 month bootstrap then you have to rearrange your food for the long term.

              Just mentioned as it is possible to loss weight even if you cannot manage so much your food and you have no time to sport.

              She first tested it something like 2 years back on herself and now she is in "mainteinance mode". Med Checkups are all ok and weight stabilized.

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              • matteo nunziatiM
                matteo nunziati @NDC
                last edited by

                @NDC said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                ketosis.

                yes! that's it exactly. I now also recall both the name of the induced effect and that he actually did urine tests to check his state.

                And no, do not do this at home! 😛

                @Tim_G what is a bad/good carb? I'm aware of good/bad fats but not carbs. can you elaborate a bit?! thanks!

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  Striving for daily.

                  Today I walked to the event my daughter had.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse
                    last edited by

                    I admit that the last two years with NTG has had me 'health' worried as I am sitting all day, and when I do get up it's generally to hit the snacks or such.

                    Since getting a Fitbit Charge 2 though, I've been pushing myself more and more over what I have been trying to accomplish since the start of 2017. One nice thing it has is an hourly reminder to move. So every our it 'inspires' me to get at least 250 steps in.

                    More moving. If I carry my phone it'll register the number of floors climbed. It does register the Elliptical.

                    I'm moving more, I try to move every hour now,.. and several days this week I hit the 250sph goal over the 12 hours I have it running.

                    Surprisingly though, I've not gained more weight,.. so I'm still the same as I was when I started NTG...

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                    • J
                      Jimmy9008
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                      Well done! Doing some good work! Only wish I could do it!
                      Years ago I used to hit the gym every other day, swim, run, weights etc and could eat whatever I wanted... but then... work started! Since then... FAT. Hate it!

                      Thanks for the inspiration.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        After four months of pretty extremely healthy eating in Europe and pretty regular exercise, it is going to be a huge challenge being back in Texas; but we are making a big effort to at least go for a really healthy food approach.

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                        • NerdyDadN
                          NerdyDad
                          last edited by

                          I am currently at 270 lbs / 122.47 kg and at 5' 8" that's overweight. Cut 3 sodas down to 1 and it will be for lunch. Cut the snacks. Portion control on food and a walk around the block everyday.

                          Goal is after 2 years for me to be at my ideal weight of 150 lbs / 68 kg.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @NerdyDad
                            last edited by

                            @NerdyDad said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                            Goal is after 2 years for me to be at my ideal weight of 150 lbs / 68 kg.

                            That's the way to do it. A realistic approach!

                            People try to do that in only months, and if they do, it doesn't last long before they are worse off than when they started.

                            Slow and steady will get you there for sure... no sudden drastic changes.

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                            • NerdyDadN
                              NerdyDad @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @Tim_G said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                              @NerdyDad said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                              Goal is after 2 years for me to be at my ideal weight of 150 lbs / 68 kg.

                              That's the way to do it. A realistic approach!

                              People try to do that in only months, and if they do, it doesn't last long before they are worse off than when they started.

                              Slow and steady will get you there for sure... no sudden drastic changes.

                              I'll need yall to hold me accountable. I'll try to put in routine updates about how things are going.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                After four months of pretty extremely healthy eating in Europe and pretty regular exercise, it is going to be a huge challenge being back in Texas; but we are making a big effort to at least go for a really healthy food approach.

                                Yeah the healthy food approach will help a lot. Exercise alone won't do it... but diet potentially can, though both go hand in hand.

                                What kind of area do you live in? Is it possible to walk anywhere to get errands done, or even do some light (to start) weight lifting and cardio at a local YMCA or something... for 45 minutes a few times a week?

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
                                  last edited by Obsolesce

                                  I didn't make it to the gym this morning before work... I just couldn't get up. My 5 month old had me up from 2am - 3:30am, and I just couldn't fall back asleep right to wake up at 5am to get to the gym by 5:30am. Hopefully tomorrow is better!

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @Tim_G Back in 2009, I was at 175. I was attempting to get into the Air Force (because there were hardly no jobs because of the 2008 crash) and had to lose 20 lbs. I about starved myself counting calories and ran. A lot of running to burn more calories. All in order to get the weight off. I about put myself into starvation mode. In 2010, the AF told me they didn't want me, basically because I was too old, I dropped it all and went from like 160 to where I am now.

                                    Its time to change that for my kids and future grandkids. Want to be able to play with them and do stuff besides sitting on the couch, looking at my phone for the rest of my life.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      I did not go for a walk yesterday, but the activity app tracked this.
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                                      Because I was working on this. The green house was on the unpainted deck until last night.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
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                                        Not a yard work day, so my morning walk at 1pm today.
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                                        • S
                                          Shuey
                                          last edited by Shuey

                                          I was a string bean my whole life, and then when I turned 30 and stopped getting exercise, I started putting on pounds. I went from being 120lbs with a 29" waist at age 22 to being 200lbs by 2014.

                                          I had researched food and health for years, and actually tried to do things to help (eating less fast food and meat, and eating more fruit and vegetables), but I couldn't lose the weight at all, no matter how hard I tried.

                                          In Oct/Nov of 2014, I decided I was going to be a gluten-free vegan. One of the reasons I made that decision is because I had thyroid issues for years, and was told that I would have to take medication for the rest of my life (gluten is just one of the things in food that can cause major issues for thyroid function because our bodies can't process gluten, so they create anti-bodies in an attempt to fight it off; but that ends up causing health issues for various organs in our bodies).

                                          I started off by doing a "natural cleanse" for the first 3 days (all I ate was bananas; as many as 30 per day). Then after the cleanse, I started eating nothing but a plant-based diet.

                                          I lost 25lbs the first month, and 20lbs the second month. The third month I shaved off an additional 5lbs and have been floating at 145-150lbs ever since (2.5 years now). Another thing that shocks most people about this progress is the fact that I don't exercise at all (other than casual 20 minutes walks at lunch now and then).

                                          I have more energy than I've had in years, I don't take any medication since being a gluten-free vegan, and I feel great.

                                          Granted, I'd really like to start exercising so I can tone up and add some muscle to my frame, but that's another level I'm not capable of reaching yet (I just became a father again after raising my first child for nearly 17 years).

                                          UPDATE So, so sorry, I said 300Ibs instead of 200lbs, major typo on my part! 50-55lbs total weightloss all within the first 3 months -sorry about that.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @Shuey
                                            last edited by

                                            @Shuey said in Fitness and Weightloss:

                                            I was a string bean my whole life, and then when I turned 30 and stopped getting exercise, I started putting on pounds. I went from being 120lbs with a 29" waist at age 22 to being 300lbs by 2014.

                                            I had researched food and health for years, and actually tried to do things to help (eating less fast food and meat, and eating more fruit and vegetables), but I couldn't lose the weight at all, no matter how hard I tried.

                                            In Oct/Nov of 2014, I decided I was going to be a gluten-free vegan. One of the reasons I made that decision is because I had thyroid issues for years, and was told that I would have to take medication for the rest of my life (gluten is just one of the things in food that can cause major issues for thyroid function because our bodies can't process gluten, so they create anti-bodies in an attempt to fight it off; but that ends up causing health issues for various organs in our bodies).

                                            I started off by doing a "natural cleanse" for the first 3 days (all I ate was bananas; as many as 30 per day). Then after the cleanse, I started eating nothing but a plant-based diet.

                                            I lost 25lbs the first month, and 20lbs the second month. The third month I shaved off an additional 5lbs and have been floating at 145-150lbs ever since (2.5 years now). Another thing that shocks most people about this progress is the fact that I don't exercise at all (other than casual 20 minutes walks at lunch now and then).

                                            I have more energy than I've had in years, I don't take any medication since being a gluten-free vegan, and I feel great.

                                            Granted, I'd really like to start exercising so I can tone up and add some muscle to my frame, but that's another level I'm not capable of reaching yet (I just became a father again after raising my first child for nearly 17 years).

                                            That's effin awesome! Congratulations!

                                            How's it going maintaining your current weight? Difficult? Don't have to think about it anymore?

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