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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

      Doesn't make sense.

      Doens't need to make sense to you. That's AJS. Feeling that there are different priorities than set by the company management / owner.

      You might be right from a profits standpoint, but that's up to them to determine.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

        It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
        When am I just doing my job?

        I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

          @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

          It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
          When am I just doing my job?

          I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.

          So my situation doesn't change. I am still working on this issue.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
            last edited by

            @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

            @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

            @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

            It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
            When am I just doing my job?

            I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.

            So my situation doesn't change. I am still working on this issue.

            Depends if you feel your direct boss or his boss is in charge 😉

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
              last edited by DustinB3403

              @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

              @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

              @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

              @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

              It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
              When am I just doing my job?

              I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.

              So my situation doesn't change. I am still working on this issue.

              Depends if you feel your direct boss or his boss is in charge 😉

              No, his boss is the person who he reports to. He's apparently been tasked with spending time on trying to find out what happened and to presumably document it. Rather than just to get the system up and running.

              Unless his bosses boss came to @wirestyle22 and said "What are you doing, don't do that" should @wirestyle22 just stick with what he's been told to do. It sounds like this was a direct order.

              "Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                "Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.

                Where else is the blood supposed to go when we sacrifice them?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                  @DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                  "Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.

                  Where else is the blood supposed to go when we sacrifice them?

                  I think your D&D is showing.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                    @JaredBusch said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                    @DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                    "Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.

                    Where else is the blood supposed to go when we sacrifice them?

                    I think your D&D is showing.

                    Likely

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                      If we restore it's going to take a long time. It's over MPLS to France. One file is nothing.

                      This is a huge problem. How the heck are they using Europe as their singular backup location for US based servers? This is insanity.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Have you tried some of the things that we suggested? Like started Apache without the workload to make sure Apache itself is okay?

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                          Apache without the workload

                          Not sure how I would achieve this. I must have missed this comment

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                            last edited by

                            @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                            @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                            Apache without the workload

                            Not sure how I would achieve this. I must have missed this comment

                            You remove the conf file that points to whatever application you are trying to host.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                              @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                              @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                              Apache without the workload

                              Not sure how I would achieve this. I must have missed this comment

                              You remove the conf file that points to whatever application you are trying to host.

                              Right I'm having trouble locating it. Been looking for awhile. I'm going to try to talk to one of the developers tomorrow when they are here

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                It is apache. It has known config locations that cannot just be changed.

                                /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf for starters.

                                Even back in RHEL 4 (yes this is still a live server I just made the screenshot from).
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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch Wouldn't this be apache related, but actually php?

                                  oci8.so is what I'm trying to comment out somewhere

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                    Apache without the workload

                                    Not sure how I would achieve this. I must have missed this comment

                                    You remove the conf file that points to whatever application you are trying to host.

                                    Right I'm having trouble locating it. Been looking for awhile. I'm going to try to talk to one of the developers tomorrow when they are here

                                    Jared provided the location. /etc/httpd/ has all the Apache config files.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                      last edited by

                                      @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                      @JaredBusch Wouldn't this be apache related, but actually php?

                                      oci8.so is what I'm trying to comment out somewhere

                                      No, it is not. That's a C library. Start with what we are talking about... disabling the workload. Ignore the shared libraries, I think you are getting stuck in the weeds. Yes, the errors might be related to that, but likely you have a bigger problem.

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                                      • black3dynamiteB
                                        black3dynamite
                                        last edited by

                                        Everytime I search for oci8, the results say something about PHP and Oracle.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Yeah, looks like the Oracle DB client is installed.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            backup the file

                                            sudo cp /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf.bak
                                            

                                            the pop it in vi/nano and look for not default things.

                                            also rename anything in /etc/httpd/conf.d

                                            sudo mv /etc/httpd/conf.d/wtf.conf /etc/httpd/conf.d/wtf.conf.bak
                                            

                                            then restart apache

                                            sudo service stop httpd
                                            sudo service start httpd
                                            

                                            In fact, I would rename anything in conf.d first, and restart.

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