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    • JoyJ
      Joy
      last edited by

      Hello Everyone. I just started to train him again today. From very basic.
      @RoguePacket yes i did ask him to open up about his goal.I am shocked because he said he don't know what he really want.

      Told him that he need to help himself if he really want to learn. I encouraged him to learn things outside from work. ( We are really do the training during working hours) I am gathering some opinion and ideas from ML and from other Community.
      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/557450-re-training
      I am reviewing now if what is applicable into our current situation and i will try to apply and see if how things work soon. 🙂

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      • thanksajdotcomT
        thanksajdotcom
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        Joyfano (tagging not working), hopefully it works out!

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        • JoyJ
          Joy
          last edited by

          Just an update .
          So the guy AWOL
          almost 5 days he never report here and never advise if what happen to him.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Not surprising.

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            • JoyJ
              Joy
              last edited by

              Yes. I i send him message asking if what happen to him but no reply at all.
              its true @scottalanmiller not surprising.

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              • JoyJ
                Joy @thanksajdotcom
                last edited by

                @ajstringham said:

                Joyfano (tagging not working), hopefully it works out!

                Lets try if it works now @ajstringham

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @Joyfano tag, you're it.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Working for us.

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                    • JoyJ
                      Joy @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Joyfano tag, you're it.

                      Its doesn't appear in my notification
                      sad1.jpg

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom
                        last edited by

                        Works now. Anyways, not surprising, to echo @scottalanmiller 's sentiment. He could see the handwriting on the wall.

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                        • JoyJ
                          Joy
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                          lols he has the power lols

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                          • thanksajdotcomT
                            thanksajdotcom @Joy
                            last edited by

                            @Joyfano said:

                            lols he has the power lols

                            Not sure what you mean by that...

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                            • JoyJ
                              Joy @thanksajdotcom
                              last edited by

                              @ajstringham said:

                              @Joyfano said:

                              lols he has the power lols

                              Not sure what you mean by that...

                              Never mind.tagging is working now for me
                              awesome

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                              • RoguePacketR
                                RoguePacket @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Not surprising.
                                @Joyfano

                                ...and not professional.

                                It has been often questioned when getting new employees: Should the hiring manager,

                                • Get the one with the best technical skills?
                                • Get the one with the best temperament?

                                "Skills" looks attractive, but "temperament" wins. There is a caveat in the person needs be willing and able to develop their own skills within and outside the company & within and outside the job description.

                                After all, that issues of all types arise is expected, what is important is how they are handled. Even in "bad situations", not resolving can be (somewhat) okay if the inability or delay in resolving is communicated expeditiously and effectively.

                                Better fortune with the next person!

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                                • JoyJ
                                  Joy @RoguePacket
                                  last edited by

                                  @RoguePacket said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Not surprising.
                                  @Joyfano

                                  ...and not professional.

                                  It has been often questioned when getting new employees: Should the hiring manager,

                                  • Get the one with the best technical skills?
                                  • Get the one with the best temperament?

                                  "Skills" looks attractive, but "temperament" wins. There is a caveat in the person needs be willing and able to develop their own skills within and outside the company & within and outside the job description.

                                  After all, that issues of all types arise is expected, what is important is how they are handled. Even in "bad situations", not resolving can be (somewhat) okay if the inability or delay in resolving is communicated expeditiously and effectively.

                                  Better fortune with the next person!

                                  Yes not professional.
                                  The next person i am planning to hire our "Intern last 2012"

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                                  • StrongBadS
                                    StrongBad
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                                    I've heard it called Values, Attributes and Skills. Skills are easy to teach and matter, but very little. They matter a lot in short term consultants, not in employees you hope to keep. Even if they have the skills that you want they will soon be outdated.

                                    Attributes or Aptitude (similar ways to look at the "A") are not easy to change but can be changed with effort over time. Finding someone with the "A"s that you need is important or at least getting someone who is close. Anyone with the right "A" will be able to acquire the skills necessary quite easily and will be able to keep doing so as the needed skills change over time.

                                    But the most important aspect is Values and these, effectively, cannot change. Finding someone whose values match those of your organization is of the utmost importance. Without these you will have fundamental conflicts and incompatibilities that will make the relationship untenable.

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom @StrongBad
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                                      @StrongBad said:

                                      I've heard it called Values, Attributes and Skills. Skills are easy to teach and matter, but very little. They matter a lot in short term consultants, not in employees you hope to keep. Even if they have the skills that you want they will soon be outdated.

                                      Attributes or Aptitude (similar ways to look at the "A") are not easy to change but can be changed with effort over time. Finding someone with the "A"s that you need is important or at least getting someone who is close. Anyone with the right "A" will be able to acquire the skills necessary quite easily and will be able to keep doing so as the needed skills change over time.

                                      But the most important aspect is Values and these, effectively, cannot change. Finding someone whose values match those of your organization is of the utmost importance. Without these you will have fundamental conflicts and incompatibilities that will make the relationship untenable.

                                      Never read that before. Well written.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Matching values would be what contribute to a strong and healthy culture.

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                                        • JoyJ
                                          Joy
                                          last edited by

                                          Thank you for all of our reply guys. I wish our Production manager as well as our Admin manager can read my post.

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                                          • Reid CooperR
                                            Reid Cooper @Joy
                                            last edited by

                                            @Joyfano said:

                                            Thank you for all of our reply guys. I wish our Production manager as well as our Admin manager can read my post.

                                            Invite them to join the community! The more the merrier.

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