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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

      @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

      @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

      @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

      Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

      9ByKYlPsQe.png

      That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

      According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

      That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

      The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

      This is the part that I say is to ambiguous. It says you have to have a "valid License" AND are upgrading... You're reading that to mean SINCE you're upgrading, the only thing you can upgrade from is Win 7 or 8.1, therefore the valid license can only apply to a win 7 or 8.1 license... I sorta see that... but it just seems wrong.

      At this point I'll just let it go because I'm no lawyer and can't really guess how a court would rule.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

        @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

        @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

        @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

        Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

        9ByKYlPsQe.png

        That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

        According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

        That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

        The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

        It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @Obsolesce
          last edited by

          @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

          @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

          @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

          @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

          @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

          Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

          9ByKYlPsQe.png

          That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

          According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

          That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

          The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

          It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.

          And the fact that the pages all show different shite depending on what OS you're coming from just makes this even more crazy - Though I'm betting that's just lazy programming more than anything.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!

            I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

              @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

              @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

              @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

              @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

              @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

              Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

              9ByKYlPsQe.png

              That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

              According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

              That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

              The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

              It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.

              And the fact that the pages all show different shite depending on what OS you're coming from just makes this even more crazy - Though I'm betting that's just lazy programming more than anything.

              In general, license information is something I don't think MS allows "lazy" to come into. They are crazy strategic about this stuff.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

                9ByKYlPsQe.png

                That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

                According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

                That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

                The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

                It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.

                The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                  @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                  @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                  @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                  Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

                  9ByKYlPsQe.png

                  That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

                  According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

                  That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

                  The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

                  It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.

                  And the fact that the pages all show different shite depending on what OS you're coming from just makes this even more crazy - Though I'm betting that's just lazy programming more than anything.

                  In general, license information is something I don't think MS allows "lazy" to come into. They are crazy strategic about this stuff.

                  So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit (ok not really still have to have valid Win 7 or 8.1 license) but if you download from windows - you get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system... that just seems crazy.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                    Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!

                    I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.

                    Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                      @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                      @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                      Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

                      9ByKYlPsQe.png

                      That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

                      According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

                      That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

                      The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

                      It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.

                      The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)

                      Can you imagine having to accept a EULA before you even get to see the EULA? A judge would throw the entire thing out in a heartbeat.

                      Plaintiff: Your honor, I can't possible accept the EULA for <whatever> without being given the chance to read and accept the EULA.
                      Microsoft: Your honor, we really just want to force anything and everything down any user or company that ever even wants to consider our product.
                      Judge: Yeah MS. . . eat an entire bag of ****s.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                        @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                        @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                        Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

                        9ByKYlPsQe.png

                        That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

                        According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

                        That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

                        The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

                        It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.

                        The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)

                        There are two EULAs. One for the MCT that appears first, then after a few nexts, prior to install while still in MCT, the June 2018 Windows software EULA.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                          @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                          @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                          Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

                          9ByKYlPsQe.png

                          That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

                          According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

                          That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

                          The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

                          It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.

                          The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)

                          There are two EULAs. One for the MCT that appears first, then after a few nexts, prior to install while still in MCT, the June 2018 Windows software EULA.

                          And there is a third, within Windows, after the install.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                            So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit

                            No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.

                            @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                            ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...

                            Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                              Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!

                              I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.

                              Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).

                              Never could. Why would you think that that upgrade was free but others are not (other than paperwork.) Windows 10 is the first upgrade ever offered for free.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                @Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.

                                9ByKYlPsQe.png

                                That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.

                                According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.

                                That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.

                                The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.

                                It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.

                                The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)

                                There are two EULAs. One for the MCT that appears first, then after a few nexts, prior to install while still in MCT, the June 2018 Windows software EULA.

                                OIC, okay.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                  @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                  So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit

                                  No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.

                                  @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                  ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...

                                  Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.

                                  that's insane - almost no one here is downloading MCT for use on the machine they are downloading on, so that scan is mostly pointless.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                    @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                    So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit

                                    No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.

                                    @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                    ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...

                                    Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.

                                    that's insane - almost no one here is downloading MCT for use on the machine they are downloading on, so that scan is mostly pointless.

                                    Mostly sure, but there is the legitimate reason of "Windows 10 is acting fuckery, so I want to reinstall it, let me go and get the MCT from Microsoft and build a new bootable USB"

                                    So your stance is again, Tinfoil Hat related.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                      @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                      Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!

                                      I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.

                                      Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).

                                      Never could. Why would you think that that upgrade was free but others are not (other than paperwork.) Windows 10 is the first upgrade ever offered for free.

                                      that is purely wrong! I upgraded all of my Windows 8 machines around my office to Windows 8.1 for free. Now you're telling me I broke the law? hey considering this conversation - anything's possible.

                                      The windows 8.1 upgrade came from the Windows store. once you installed the 8.1, digital rights for 8.1 where assigned to your machine and could be reinstalled from scratch.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                        @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                        So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit

                                        No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.

                                        @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                        ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...

                                        Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.

                                        that's insane - almost no one here is downloading MCT for use on the machine they are downloading on, so that scan is mostly pointless.

                                        I'd agree that it is insane. But almost everyone is, actually, downloading on the machine that they are on because of how it works. The Linux situation I am in is definitely the outlier by far. There are solid cases where you would do this (Windows 7 machine without Internet access), but they are anything but the norm.

                                        Since you have to download the MCT every time, doing it to a separate machine on any scale doesn't work.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                          @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                          Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!

                                          I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.

                                          Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).

                                          Never could. Why would you think that that upgrade was free but others are not (other than paperwork.) Windows 10 is the first upgrade ever offered for free.

                                          that is purely wrong! I upgraded all of my Windows 8 machines around my office to Windows 8.1 for free. Now you're telling me I broke the law? hey considering this conversation - anything's possible.

                                          The windows 8.1 upgrade came from the Windows store. once you installed the 8.1, digital rights for 8.1 where assigned to your machine and could be reinstalled from scratch.

                                          Interesting. If that was the case, then it likely was the same as the Windows 10 one now, with Windows 8 having had a free upgrade option that expired when Windows 8 licenses were no longer valid (past end of life.)

                                          Basically what you are describing is the same as the MCT process. Just through a different link.

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                                            @Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:

                                            The windows 8.1 upgrade came from the Windows store. once you installed the 8.1, digital rights for 8.1 where assigned to your machine and could be reinstalled from scratch.

                                            This is basically exactly what we are describing now. Except obviously the Store has failed and they use their website now rather than the Store everyone universally blocks or ignores.

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