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      scotth
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      7zip FTW

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        WrCombs @scotth
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        @scotth said in zip and . rar files?:

        7zip FTW

        should I google this?
        Im confused.

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          scotth @WrCombs
          last edited by scotth

          @WrCombs Yeh. 7zip is really good, opens about 4 dozen types of compressed files and is free.
          .rar files are going / have gone by the wayside for the most part. You'll still find a lot of them on Usenet, but not elsewhere for for the most part

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            WrCombs @scotth
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            @scotth said in zip and . rar files?:

            @WrCombs Yeh. 7zip is really good, opens about 4 dozen types of compressed files and is free.

            Unlike Winrar which after a 40 day free trial will have to purchase and or Uninstall

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              WrCombs @scotth
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              @scotth said in zip and . rar files?:

              @WrCombs Yeh. 7zip is really good, opens about 4 dozen types of compressed files and is free.
              .rar files are going / have gone by the wayside for the most part. You'll still find a lot of them on Usenet, but not elsewhere for for the most part

              Is 7zip easy to use?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                In my ever growing quest to learn IT I've came across a .rar File (Winrar file -- Right? )

                So what's the difference between a . rar file and a .zip File?

                I thought they were the same thing more or less just the .rar file is the Windows Version of a .zip file.
                And to extra the .zip you have to use winrar (?)

                Excuse the Noobness. Just curious.

                Rar is a paid program, 7Zip is an open source compression and decompression tool that manages pretty much every type of compressed file (besides some of the stupidly unpopular apple ones).

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                  bnrstnr @WrCombs
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                  @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                  @scotth said in zip and . rar files?:

                  @WrCombs Yeh. 7zip is really good, opens about 4 dozen types of compressed files and is free.
                  .rar files are going / have gone by the wayside for the most part. You'll still find a lot of them on Usenet, but not elsewhere for for the most part

                  Is 7zip easy to use?

                  Incredibly easy.

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                    dafyre @WrCombs
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                    @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                    So what's the difference between a . rar file and a .zip File?

                    The main bits is the difference in how they go about doing the compression.

                    However, I will echo the others here and suggest using 7Zip and it's 7z format. It does a better job than Zip and RAR most of the time.

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                      bnrstnr
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                      If you're into Chocolatey, you can install with choco install 7zip, too!

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                        WrCombs @bnrstnr
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                        @bnrstnr said in zip and . rar files?:

                        If you're into Chocolatey, you can install with choco install 7zip, too!

                        I use chocolatey for everything - Like franks red hot. lol

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                        • nadnerBN
                          nadnerB
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                          7zip is multi-threaded. Sooooooo much faster to compress/decompress than standard zip files in Windows.

                          As already said above, WinRAR (.rar files) is paid software. 7zip is FOSS.

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                            IRJ @nadnerB
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                            @nadnerB said in zip and . rar files?:

                            7zip is multi-threaded. Sooooooo much faster to compress/decompress than standard zip files in Windows.

                            As already said above, WinRAR (.rar files) is paid software. 7zip is FOSS.

                            and it's cross platform

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                              notverypunny @IRJ
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                              @IRJ said in zip and . rar files?:

                              @nadnerB said in zip and . rar files?:

                              7zip is multi-threaded. Sooooooo much faster to compress/decompress than standard zip files in Windows.

                              As already said above, WinRAR (.rar files) is paid software. 7zip is FOSS.

                              and it's cross platform

                              And it'll right-click > extract just about anything, including exe 🙂 Makes extracting Dell iDRAC firmware blobs sooo much easier

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                                WrCombs @WrCombs
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                                @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                                In my ever growing quest to learn IT I've came across a .rar File (Winrar file -- Right? )

                                So what's the difference between a . rar file and a .zip File?

                                I thought they were the same thing more or less just the .rar file is the Windows Version of a .zip file.
                                And to extra the .zip you have to use winrar (?)

                                Excuse the Noobness. Just curious.

                                So there is no difference - a .rar file is a zip file (both are compressed files/folders)
                                The only difference in the compressed file is the software you use to compress the file -
                                Right? or did I totally miss that ?

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                                  travisdh1 @WrCombs
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                                  @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                                  @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                                  In my ever growing quest to learn IT I've came across a .rar File (Winrar file -- Right? )

                                  So what's the difference between a . rar file and a .zip File?

                                  I thought they were the same thing more or less just the .rar file is the Windows Version of a .zip file.
                                  And to extra the .zip you have to use winrar (?)

                                  Excuse the Noobness. Just curious.

                                  So there is no difference - a .rar file is a zip file (both are compressed files/folders)
                                  The only difference in the compressed file is the software you use to compress the file -
                                  Right? or did I totally miss that ?

                                  Halfway there.

                                  They all do the same thing, but how they do it is different. Like setting up a VPN, they all do the same thing, but use different encryption algorithms. .zip .rar and .7z all use a different compression algorithm by default. Most also let you choose different algorithms as well.

                                  7zip is by far the best out of the ones your looking at. It's so much faster than most other programs.

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                                    WrCombs @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said in zip and . rar files?:

                                    @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                                    @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                                    In my ever growing quest to learn IT I've came across a .rar File (Winrar file -- Right? )

                                    So what's the difference between a . rar file and a .zip File?

                                    I thought they were the same thing more or less just the .rar file is the Windows Version of a .zip file.
                                    And to extra the .zip you have to use winrar (?)

                                    Excuse the Noobness. Just curious.

                                    So there is no difference - a .rar file is a zip file (both are compressed files/folders)
                                    The only difference in the compressed file is the software you use to compress the file -
                                    Right? or did I totally miss that ?

                                    Halfway there.

                                    They all do the same thing, but how they do it is different. Like setting up a VPN, they all do the same thing, but use different encryption algorithms. .zip .rar and .7z all use a different compression algorithm by default. Most also let you choose different algorithms as well.

                                    7zip is by far the best out of the ones your looking at. It's so much faster than most other programs.

                                    Gotcha, Thanks for breaking that down.

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                                      srsmith
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                                      One thing to keep in mind about compatibility - .zip files may not require installing extra software, whereas others like .rar and .7z usually do. Take Windows for example: Windows Explorer handles .zip files OOB, but has no clue how to deal with .rar or .7z files. You need to install something like WinRAR or 7zip to open them.

                                      Why does this matter? Say you or one of your users are trying to send someone an email with some attachments, but there is no guarantee the recipient has, or can install, extra software. In this case, a .zip file is probably your safest, most compatible choice.

                                      I haven't really had to think about this in quite some time - I've been using 7zip for probably 10 years now.

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                                        DustinB3403 @srsmith
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                                        @srsmith said in zip and . rar files?:

                                        Say you or one of your users are trying to send someone an email with some attachments, but there is no guarantee the recipient has, or can install, extra software. In this case, a .zip file is probably your safest, most compatible choice.

                                        In a case like that, you would go with the defacto standard .zip extension, of which any of the aforementioned softwares can compress into, but 7Zip by far handles the process more smoothly than most other softwares.

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                                          scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                                          @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                                          I thought they were the same thing more or less just the .rar file is the Windows Version of a .zip file.

                                          RAR and ZIP are both completely Windows native formats. Neither of those formats every appear on any other OS except to work with files coming from old Windows systems. ZIP is the compression for the Windows world. RAR is a weird, niche format that was popular for a little while but long ago faded away.

                                          Everyone else traditionally uses GZ format for compression and TAR for combining files and the "tarball" or TGZ (TAR GZ) format to replace ZIP.

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                                            scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                                            @WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:

                                            @scotth said in zip and . rar files?:

                                            7zip FTW

                                            should I google this?
                                            Im confused.

                                            7Zip has been "the" compression tool to use on Windows for forever. Free, really powerful, absolutely no excuse for using anything else.

                                            choco install 7zip -y
                                            
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