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    Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?

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    • pmonchoP
      pmoncho
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      @wrx7m

      Did you end up going the UPD route? If so, what are your thoughts so far?

      I am debating myself. We have a couple 2008R2 RDS hosts ourselves and will be migrating to 2019. We have a pretty simple setup with one LOB app.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @pmoncho
        last edited by

        @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

        @wrx7m

        Did you end up going the UPD route? If so, what are your thoughts so far?

        I am debating myself. We have a couple 2008R2 RDS hosts ourselves and will be migrating to 2019. We have a pretty simple setup with one LOB app.

        If you don't need dedicated profiles that save information - why not just use a mandatory profile instead?

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        • wrx7mW
          wrx7m @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

          @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

          @wrx7m

          Did you end up going the UPD route? If so, what are your thoughts so far?

          I am debating myself. We have a couple 2008R2 RDS hosts ourselves and will be migrating to 2019. We have a pretty simple setup with one LOB app.

          If you don't need dedicated profiles that save information - why not just use a mandatory profile instead?

          I had to pause last week. I am picking up this project again and am going to try testing UPD with a couple test users. I will update this thread with my thoughts.

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          • pmonchoP
            pmoncho @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

            @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

            @wrx7m

            Did you end up going the UPD route? If so, what are your thoughts so far?

            I am debating myself. We have a couple 2008R2 RDS hosts ourselves and will be migrating to 2019. We have a pretty simple setup with one LOB app.

            If you don't need dedicated profiles that save information - why not just use a mandatory profile instead?

            Having a <75 User setup, GPO'd locked down Hosts and with one LOB app, I never really though about it. I will look into it though and see.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @pmoncho
              last edited by

              @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

              @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

              @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

              @wrx7m

              Did you end up going the UPD route? If so, what are your thoughts so far?

              I am debating myself. We have a couple 2008R2 RDS hosts ourselves and will be migrating to 2019. We have a pretty simple setup with one LOB app.

              If you don't need dedicated profiles that save information - why not just use a mandatory profile instead?

              Having a <75 User setup, GPO'd locked down Hosts and with one LOB app, I never really though about it. I will look into it though and see.

              If you're not deploying an actual desktop, mandatory profiles seems like the way to go, that and delete them (there's a registry key for that) each time upon log off.

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              • pmonchoP
                pmoncho @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                @wrx7m

                Did you end up going the UPD route? If so, what are your thoughts so far?

                I am debating myself. We have a couple 2008R2 RDS hosts ourselves and will be migrating to 2019. We have a pretty simple setup with one LOB app.

                If you don't need dedicated profiles that save information - why not just use a mandatory profile instead?

                Having a <75 User setup, GPO'd locked down Hosts and with one LOB app, I never really though about it. I will look into it though and see.

                If you're not deploying an actual desktop, mandatory profiles seems like the way to go, that and delete them (there's a registry key for that) each time upon log off.

                I do have them coming to the RDHS desktop at the moment. Currently looking up mandatory profiles to see if they are a good fit. It is looking to seem so.

                I was also thinking about using RemoteApp so they can don't really get to the desktop. If using RemoteApp, is a mandatory profile even needed?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @pmoncho
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                  @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                  @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                  @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                  @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                  @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                  @wrx7m

                  Did you end up going the UPD route? If so, what are your thoughts so far?

                  I am debating myself. We have a couple 2008R2 RDS hosts ourselves and will be migrating to 2019. We have a pretty simple setup with one LOB app.

                  If you don't need dedicated profiles that save information - why not just use a mandatory profile instead?

                  Having a <75 User setup, GPO'd locked down Hosts and with one LOB app, I never really though about it. I will look into it though and see.

                  If you're not deploying an actual desktop, mandatory profiles seems like the way to go, that and delete them (there's a registry key for that) each time upon log off.

                  I do have them coming to the RDHS desktop at the moment. Currently looking up mandatory profiles to see if they are a good fit. It is looking to seem so.

                  I was also thinking about using RemoteApp so they can don't really get to the desktop. If using RemoteApp, is a mandatory profile even needed?

                  I'd say it's even more "desired", not needed - one less thing that breaks. Never have to worry that some cache file is broken, etc.

                  This of course depends on your LOB - if your LOB requires static information you can't folder redirect out of the profile, well, then you're stuck.

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                  • pmonchoP
                    pmoncho @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                    @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                    @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                    @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                    @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                    @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                    @wrx7m

                    Did you end up going the UPD route? If so, what are your thoughts so far?

                    I am debating myself. We have a couple 2008R2 RDS hosts ourselves and will be migrating to 2019. We have a pretty simple setup with one LOB app.

                    If you don't need dedicated profiles that save information - why not just use a mandatory profile instead?

                    Having a <75 User setup, GPO'd locked down Hosts and with one LOB app, I never really though about it. I will look into it though and see.

                    If you're not deploying an actual desktop, mandatory profiles seems like the way to go, that and delete them (there's a registry key for that) each time upon log off.

                    I do have them coming to the RDHS desktop at the moment. Currently looking up mandatory profiles to see if they are a good fit. It is looking to seem so.

                    I was also thinking about using RemoteApp so they can don't really get to the desktop. If using RemoteApp, is a mandatory profile even needed?

                    I'd say it's even more "desired", not needed - one less thing that breaks. Never have to worry that some cache file is broken, etc.

                    Good point.

                    This of course depends on your LOB - if your LOB requires static information you can't folder redirect out of the profile, well, then you're stuck.

                    Hmm.. I will check into that. I don't think the LOB does anything inside the profile. Basically just runs a static .exe that connects to an SQL DB back end.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      Cool, then you should have it easy.

                      FYI - Published apps still create a full profile on the RDS box, Just the desktop isn't presented to the user. If the application allows them to browse around, they could typically see the drive letters, the mapped printers, etc... that's why you still need to lock all that stuff down.

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                      • pmonchoP
                        pmoncho @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                        Cool, then you should have it easy.

                        FYI - Published apps still create a full profile on the RDS box, Just the desktop isn't presented to the user. If the application allows them to browse around, they could typically see the drive letters, the mapped printers, etc... that's why you still need to lock all that stuff down.

                        Thanks for the info. I will keep that in mind. I was debating about using UPD's like @wrx7m and that was my interest in this post.

                        Also, still planning out where to put Connection Broker, WebAccess and Licensing but that is another post.

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                        • PhlipElderP
                          PhlipElder @pmoncho
                          last edited by PhlipElder

                          @pmoncho said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                          @Dashrender said in Windows RDS User Profiles - Migrate, Recreate or User Profile Disks?:

                          Cool, then you should have it easy.

                          FYI - Published apps still create a full profile on the RDS box, Just the desktop isn't presented to the user. If the application allows them to browse around, they could typically see the drive letters, the mapped printers, etc... that's why you still need to lock all that stuff down.

                          Thanks for the info. I will keep that in mind. I was debating about using UPD's like @wrx7m and that was my interest in this post.

                          Also, still planning out where to put Connection Broker, WebAccess and Licensing but that is another post.

                          For local profile management, UPDs are a lot cleaner. If we are not putting them on a file server across the network then a second partition/VHDX is set up for that task to keep them separate.

                          With the inclusion of FSLogix with RDS CALs/SALs now it's a no-brainer, IMNSHO, to set the project up on the FSLogix version.

                          Storage management is another reason why UPDs on a network or separate partition make sense. Keeping a local profile on the C:\ of the session host is messy and can cause issues down the road with users coming and going.

                          As far as the Broker/Gateway/Web put those roles on one VM but separate from the Session Host.

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