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          • JaredBuschJ
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            They offer free service in the event of an outage.

            But if you are having outages, I'm likely to want ot move my services anyway So that is a a waste.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              @Curtis as for the rest of their services, this seems pretty on par with others.

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              • Emad RE
                Emad R @Emad R
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                @Emad-R

                Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Emad R
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                  @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                  @Emad-R

                  Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                  So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

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                    1337 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                    @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                    @Emad-R

                    Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                    So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                    It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.

                    So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.

                    So 1-2 servers sounds about right 🙂

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @1337
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                      @Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                      @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                      @Emad-R

                      Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                      So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                      It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.

                      So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.

                      So 1-2 servers sounds about right 🙂

                      And you can often get way, way bigger core counts. Easy to get at least 64 cores on a single server.

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                        1337 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                        @Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                        @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                        @Emad-R

                        Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                        So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                        It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.

                        So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.

                        So 1-2 servers sounds about right 🙂

                        And you can often get way, way bigger core counts. Easy to get at least 64 cores on a single server.

                        Yes, a server with dual AMD Epyc 7551 for instance has 32 cores per CPU so 64 real cores total.

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                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                          @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                          @Emad-R

                          Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                          So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                          1 server with just under 200 GB RAM if all 500 VMs are Linux 😉

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @1337
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                            @Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                            @Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                            @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                            @Emad-R

                            Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                            So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                            It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.

                            So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.

                            So 1-2 servers sounds about right 🙂

                            And you can often get way, way bigger core counts. Easy to get at least 64 cores on a single server.

                            Yes, a server with dual AMD Epyc 7551 for instance has 32 cores per CPU so 64 real cores total.

                            yeah, and that's just two CPUs, you could do more, in theory. And that's just AMD architecture. If we could do RISC systems, we could get even bigger!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                              @Obsolesce said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                              @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                              @Emad-R

                              Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                              So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                              1 server with just under 200 GB RAM if all 500 VMs are Linux 😉

                              It's true. For the kinds of workloads used around here, that might actually work.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                And if you did LXC instead of KVM, it reduces RAM needs significantly. Because the kernel RAM is shared rather than repeated.

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                                • Emad RE
                                  Emad R @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                                  And if you did LXC instead of KVM, it reduces RAM needs significantly. Because the kernel RAM is shared rather than repeated.

                                  I'm learning a lot about LXD , and preparing video screen guide for ML

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Emad R
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                                    @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                                    And if you did LXC instead of KVM, it reduces RAM needs significantly. Because the kernel RAM is shared rather than repeated.

                                    I'm learning a lot about LXD , and preparing video screen guide for ML

                                    Awesome! It's GREAT technology. If you can fit within its limitations, pretty much nothing is going to work as well for you.

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                                      dave_c
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                                      Interesting benchmarks:
                                      https://community.centminmod.com/threads/13-way-vps-server-benchmark-comparison-tests-upcloud-vs-digitalocean-vs-linode-vs-vultr-vs-hetzner.17742/

                                      (edit) Warning: It is a long analysis. You can go to the summary at the end if you like.

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                                        Obsolesce @dave_c
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                                        @dave_c said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                                        Interesting benchmarks:
                                        https://community.centminmod.com/threads/13-way-vps-server-benchmark-comparison-tests-upcloud-vs-digitalocean-vs-linode-vs-vultr-vs-hetzner.17742/

                                        (edit) Warning: It is a long analysis. You can go to the summary at the end if you like.

                                        Great for Vultr if you don't mind having your data in the U.S.

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                                          dave_c @Obsolesce
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                                          @Obsolesce
                                          On the other hand, UpCloud was consistently good with some data centers outside of US

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                                          • Emad RE
                                            Emad R @dave_c
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                                            @dave_c said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                                            UpCloud

                                            Vultr new service is killing everyone, I just wait for it to be available in other regions. Called high freq VMs

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