Exploring VitalPBX
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@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@black3dynamite said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
If it isn't open source, why is it free?
open source and free is two different things.
I understand that. How is it free?
I don't understand. You don't pay anything. It's like anything that is free.
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@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@scottalanmiller said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
If it isn't open source, why is it free?
The vast majority of free things in the world aren't open source. Most don't even have source. SW was free but closed as well.
Right. How is this able to be free? Do they have paid tiers?
Because someone else pays for it
Like essentially any free software you can buy services like support for it. And they sell add ons for it like billing modules. Same as FreePBX does.
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@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@black3dynamite said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
If it isn't open source, why is it free?
open source and free is two different things.
I understand that. How is it free?
FFS....
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@scottalanmiller said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@scottalanmiller said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
If it isn't open source, why is it free?
The vast majority of free things in the world aren't open source. Most don't even have source. SW was free but closed as well.
Right. How is this able to be free? Do they have paid tiers?
Because someone else pays for it
Like essentially any free software you can buy services like support for it. And they sell add ons for it like billing modules. Same as FreePBX does.
Oh ok. You said earlier that everything was included related to an add-on. I just was wondering where is the catch. Sure it is free, but they sell your data to advertisers or some shit.
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@scottalanmiller Dagnabit, I didn't need to see this thread so late in the day. I'm guessing spinning up a new CentOS VM will take longer than installing it, no template ready to go for CentOS
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@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@scottalanmiller said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@scottalanmiller said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
If it isn't open source, why is it free?
The vast majority of free things in the world aren't open source. Most don't even have source. SW was free but closed as well.
Right. How is this able to be free? Do they have paid tiers?
Because someone else pays for it
Like essentially any free software you can buy services like support for it. And they sell add ons for it like billing modules. Same as FreePBX does.
Oh ok. You said earlier that everything was included related to an add-on. I just was wondering where is the catch. Sure it is free, but they sell your data to advertisers or some shit.
They just mean something that is free doesn't cost anything, which is a literal interpretation of what you were saying. What you meant was how can they afford to sell their base product for nothing. The answer is selling addons.
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@travisdh1 Probably the easiest install I've ever done. If you just want to check it out I can give you admin access to mine.
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watching this!
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@wirestyle22 said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@travisdh1 Probably the easiest install I've ever done. If you just want to check it out I can give you admin access to mine.
The install actually took a good bit of time when I did it last night. Not quite as much time as installing an OS from scratch, because I'm silly and haven't created a template from CentOS 7 yet
Can't get any easier. Download script, run script, done. So nice!
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@travisdh1 said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wirestyle22 said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@travisdh1 Probably the easiest install I've ever done. If you just want to check it out I can give you admin access to mine.
The install actually took a good bit of time when I did it last night. Not quite as much time as installing an OS from scratch, because I'm silly and haven't created a template from CentOS 7 yet
Can't get any easier. Download script, run script, done. So nice!
If you need a full OS install, they have an ISO based install too.
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@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@scottalanmiller said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@scottalanmiller said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@wrx7m said in Exploring VitalPBX:
If it isn't open source, why is it free?
The vast majority of free things in the world aren't open source. Most don't even have source. SW was free but closed as well.
Right. How is this able to be free? Do they have paid tiers?
Because someone else pays for it
Like essentially any free software you can buy services like support for it. And they sell add ons for it like billing modules. Same as FreePBX does.
Oh ok. You said earlier that everything was included related to an add-on. I just was wondering where is the catch. Sure it is free, but they sell your data to advertisers or some shit.
No need for a catch. Software takes nothing to distribute. It's not like a manufactured product that requires cost for every user. All costs are completed at the time of completion. So no reason to look for a "catch" like you might expect with free physical items.
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That's not to say that free software can't have a catch, but it is no more likely than non-free software to have a catch.
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@scottalanmiller Do you know if the MySQL root password is set?
https://vitalpbx.org/en/community/frequently-asked-questions/mysql-database
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Is it common for PBX systems on CentOS to have SELinux disabled?
http://repo.telesoftsa.com/vitalpbx/manuals/VitalPBXReferenceGuideVer2EN.pdf
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@black3dynamite said in Exploring VitalPBX:
Is it common for PBX systems on CentOS to have SELinux disabled?
Yes
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@black3dynamite said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@scottalanmiller Do you know if the MySQL root password is set?
Even if it is, there will be clear text creds available
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I might have to spin this up and give it a test at some point.
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@black3dynamite said in Exploring VitalPBX:
@scottalanmiller Do you know if the MySQL root password is set?
By default there is definitely none set.
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@black3dynamite remember that this is not a database server and the database just replaces text configuration files. So having root open on MySQL is no different than having a root-only readable configuration file. Unless you encrypt your /etc directory and require a second password to read the data there even for the root user, then this is no different. And if you did use a root password on MySQL, given that there needs to be automation to it, that password would be stored in a root readable location completely defeating the purpose anyway.
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I guess this is a good problem to have...
