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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Rodrigo says: "2019 KDC issues tgt ticket encrypted by AES while Windows XP expects to accept it in RC4 encryption . This happens despite the fact that Windows 2019 KDC server is already configured to support RC4 .Moreover , in the same network, in the same domain the joining process is succeeded against 2016 or 2012 r2 Domain controller.
      I suspect that this issue could affect all RC4-only clients like old linux machines that would like to join to 2019 AD"

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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

        We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

        We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

        Don’t you have to use 2008r2 functional domain and need to use smb 1.0?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
          last edited by

          @black3dynamite said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

          @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

          We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

          We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

          Don’t you have to use 2008r2 functional domain and need to use smb 1.0?

          No, they can join 2016. And SMB level is unrelated to the forest.

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          • dbeatoD
            dbeato @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

            We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

            We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

            So what is the error?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dbeato
              last edited by

              @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

              @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

              We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

              We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

              So what is the error?

              LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                So what is the error?

                LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dbeato
                  last edited by

                  @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                  @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                  We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                  We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                  So what is the error?

                  LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                  Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

                  Correct. 2016 yes, 2019 no.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                    @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                    @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                    We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                    We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                    So what is the error?

                    LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                    Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

                    Correct. 2016 yes, 2019 no.

                    Functional levels and server versions are different things please be specific wtf you are talking about.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @dbeato
                      last edited by

                      @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                      @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                      We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                      We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                      So what is the error?

                      LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                      Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

                      At what functional level FFS

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                      • gjacobseG
                        gjacobse
                        last edited by

                        I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                        WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                        But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                        Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                          @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                          @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                          We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                          We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                          So what is the error?

                          LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                          Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

                          At what functional level FFS

                          Even 2016 functional level I'm pretty sure.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                            last edited by

                            @gjacobse said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                            I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                            WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                            But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                            Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

                            $100K update fee.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                              @gjacobse said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                              I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                              WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                              But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                              Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

                              $100K update fee.

                              Wouldn’t that price keep increasing over time?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                                last edited by

                                @black3dynamite said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                @gjacobse said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                                WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                                But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                                Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

                                $100K update fee.

                                Wouldn’t that price keep increasing over time?

                                I expect so. But maybe not, I think it might just be a flat upgrade fee to a new OS.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  I assumed it was XP because "embedded" on some system.

                                  This is a very common scenario.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                    I assumed it was XP because "embedded" on some system.

                                    This is a very common scenario.

                                    yeah, pre-press machines.

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                      @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                      We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                                      We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                                      So what is the error?

                                      LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                                      Saw that with Server 2003. Issue (despite earlier thread posts) was caused by us turning off SMBv1

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @EddieJennings
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                                        @EddieJennings said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                        @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                        We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                                        We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                                        So what is the error?

                                        LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                                        Saw that with Server 2003. Issue (despite earlier thread posts) was caused by us turning off SMBv1

                                        Yeah - I've definitely seen SMBv1 disabled cause issues for older OS's, though can't be certain it was for authentication against AD.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                          @gjacobse said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                          I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                                          WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                                          But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                                          Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

                                          $100K update fee.

                                          That update fee should be seen as a cost of business to ensure the business isn't being put at risk.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                            @gjacobse said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                            I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                                            WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                                            But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                                            Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

                                            $100K update fee.

                                            That update fee should be seen as a cost of business to ensure the business isn't being put at risk.

                                            LOL - as if 😛

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