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    Low HDL Cholestrol :(

    Water Closet
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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Obsolesce
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      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

      Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

      I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

      Study 1:
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
      Study2:
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

      (Supplemental Article)

      Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

      Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
      https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

      Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
      http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

      I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

      But I will say that you are correct here:

      @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      ... exercise and sun

      and diet of course.

      Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

      I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

      His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

      This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

      I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

      You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

      If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

      I’m working I don’t have time to read through all those links NOW.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

        Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

        I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

        Study 1:
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
        Study2:
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

        (Supplemental Article)

        Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

        Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

        Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
        http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

        I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

        But I will say that you are correct here:

        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        ... exercise and sun

        and diet of course.

        Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

        I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

        His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

        This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

        I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

        You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

        If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

        I’m working I don’t have time to read through all those links NOW.

        ...

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        • LilAngL
          LilAng
          last edited by

          Egg yolks and Cheese also have vitamin D. Not as much as fatty fish, but it can help.

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          • LilAngL
            LilAng @LilAng
            last edited by

            @LilAng said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

            Egg yolks and Cheese also have vitamin D. Not as much as fatty fish, but it can help.

            also since I can't drink milk (because it makes me sick) I drink unsweetened coconut milk and that also has vitamin D.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              Also, there is sunlight.

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              • LilAngL
                LilAng @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller maybe where you are LOL

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  Or this: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                  https://www.amazon.com/Angel-Kiss-Portable-Phototherapy-Fluorescent/dp/B06XCGGJ7C

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                    Or this: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                    https://www.amazon.com/Angel-Kiss-Portable-Phototherapy-Fluorescent/dp/B06XCGGJ7C

                    Not to be confused with an Angie Kiss. LOL

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                    • RojoLocoR
                      RojoLoco @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      Or this: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                      https://www.amazon.com/Angel-Kiss-Portable-Phototherapy-Fluorescent/dp/B06XCGGJ7C

                      Or sit under a grow lamp...

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Emad R
                        last edited by Dashrender

                        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Dashrender

                        Dude your more screwed than I, with 4.7 ratio, I am 4.3

                        You need to worry about Raising HDL and not lowering LDL. LDL is good to have in normal amount.

                        Consume olive oil. Extra virgin olive oil may be more healthful than processed olive oils. ...
                        Follow a low-carb or ketogenic diet. ...
                        Exercise regularly. ...
                        Stop smoking. ...
                        Lose weight. ...
                        Eat fatty fish often.
                        Avoid artificial trans fats

                        from
                        https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318598.php

                        That test was last year 5 weeks after I started my current exercise routine (6 days a week cardio kickboxing and strength training). I'll get another blood work panel at 1 year and see how things have changed.

                        Your listed diet has basically been my diet since July of 2018. I've never smoked - I'm an asthmatic - I hate smoking and smoke - don't really hate the smokers - but I do hate the fact that they smoke and pollute my air!

                        As for weight, I'm lighter and taller than you. 177.8 cm and 76.4 kg I've been machine measured at 12.5% body fat, and pitch tested at 11.4%.

                        The doc definitely said it's odd that my HDL is so low.. and the only suggestion he could make to fix it was drinking red wine. The oils were not mentioned.

                        I eat salmon 10-20 times a month (over lunch and dinners)... I'm pretty sure I'm getting covered there. That's been the case for more than a decade.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                          Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                          I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                          Study 1:
                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                          Study2:
                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                          (Supplemental Article)

                          Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                          https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                          Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                          https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                          Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                          http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                          I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                          But I will say that you are correct here:

                          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          ... exercise and sun

                          and diet of course.

                          Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                          I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                          His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                          This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                          I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

                          You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

                          If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

                          Interesting. 10 mins 2-3 times a week, as long as you're wearing short sleeves and shorts (likely sans socks). I read that sun exposure pushes Vit D levels 90,000+ IU with regular exposure. I'm not saying we need that much.. clearly, Carter's little liver pills showed that 400 IU a day cured scruvy...

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                          • Emad RE
                            Emad R @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                            I eat salmon 10-20 times a month (over lunch and dinners)... I'm pretty sure I'm getting covered there. That's been the case for more than a decade.

                            Btw I found out today Low HDL can be related

                            to
                            Diabetes or PreDiabetes
                            and Thyroid Glands issues.

                            I did test for both today and pending results

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                            • Emad RE
                              Emad R @Emad R
                              last edited by Emad R

                              @Emad-R

                              Okay latest update,

                              I have very good diabetes test and this is not related to diabetes for me or thyroid gland.

                              However today I went to ENT doctor and i found i have many inflammation in the nose + throat but worse in nose, perhaps that is causing the issues, I have been waking up very tired for days straight , it was very cold in my room and i even started to sleep in the living room cause it is warmed more, and even then I would wake up at 4 AM , so apparently I might be not getting good sleep due to my nose, I will take 2 weeks of mediications and hopefully be able to sleep better soon and that might be the cause of brain fog and fatiuge, also bad sleep affects HDL and explains heart palpitations.

                              https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/309482.php
                              https://www.self.com/story/9-signs-you-might-have-sleep-apnea

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                              • LilAngL
                                LilAng @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                Or this: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                https://www.amazon.com/Angel-Kiss-Portable-Phototherapy-Fluorescent/dp/B06XCGGJ7C

                                Not to be confused with an Angie Kiss. LOL

                                Nope

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