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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
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      Whatever app you are using is doing something different? Because it has always work for e when using telnet.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

        Whatever app you are using is doing something different? Because it has always work for e when using telnet.

        I'm not sure this is helpful... His Telnet IS showing it, the logs from his mail server are not.

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          flaxking
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          Tested using same application but on different computer and network, works without any issue.

          Need to verify whether or not it's only happening on one of the computers on their network.

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          • wrx7mW
            wrx7m
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            Could it be TLS 1.2 is not set as the default on the client system? If it is Windows 7, you need to adjust some registry entries.

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              flaxking @wrx7m
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              @wrx7m said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

              Could it be TLS 1.2 is not set as the default on the client system? If it is Windows 7, you need to adjust some registry entries.

              The one email library will only use a maximum of TLS 1.0. And it is before the TLS handshake, so I wouldn't think that TLS version would be a consideration yet.

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m @flaxking
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                @flaxking said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                @wrx7m said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                Could it be TLS 1.2 is not set as the default on the client system? If it is Windows 7, you need to adjust some registry entries.

                The one email library will only use a maximum of TLS 1.0. And it is before the TLS handshake, so I wouldn't think that TLS version would be a consideration yet.

                OK, because they started forcing TLS 1.2 back in October.

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                  flaxking @wrx7m
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                  @wrx7m said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                  @flaxking said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                  @wrx7m said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                  Could it be TLS 1.2 is not set as the default on the client system? If it is Windows 7, you need to adjust some registry entries.

                  The one email library will only use a maximum of TLS 1.0. And it is before the TLS handshake, so I wouldn't think that TLS version would be a consideration yet.

                  OK, because they started forcing TLS 1.2 back in October.

                  Nope, they've updated that notice

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @flaxking
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                    @flaxking Guess we are thinking of different notices... https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4057306/preparing-for-tls-1-2-in-office-365

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                      flaxking @wrx7m
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                      @wrx7m "Note This doesn't mean Office 365 will block TLS 1.0 and 1.1 connections. There is no official date for disabling or removing TLS 1.0 and 1.1 in the TLS service for customer connections."

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @flaxking
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                        @flaxking Gotcha. But, it has caused issues depending on how you are connecting and what you are connecting with. I had issues connecting with Windows 7 and Outlook and was told by support to apply registry fix and make sure a certain update was applied.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          Isn't the list of SMTP commands given before there is any attempt to bring up a TLS tunnel? Assuming my understanding of that is correct - then it shouldn't matter what version of TLS is supported - the advertising of STARTTLS should still be in the list - and the library's aren't seeing them - right?

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                            flaxking
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                            From what I heard from our tech, it sounds like the company's UTM was messing with it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @flaxking
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                              @flaxking said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                              From what I heard from our tech, it sounds like the company's UTM was messing with it.

                              That's quite possible. UTMs can introduce a lot of problems.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                                @flaxking said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                                From what I heard from our tech, it sounds like the company's UTM was messing with it.

                                That's quite possible. UTMs can introduce a lot of problems.

                                LOL I was going to say the same thing...

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                                • dbeatoD
                                  dbeato @flaxking
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                                  @flaxking said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                                  From what I heard from our tech, it sounds like the company's UTM was messing with it.

                                  Which UTM? Hopefully not SOnicwall in this case.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                                    @dbeato said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                                    @flaxking said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                                    From what I heard from our tech, it sounds like the company's UTM was messing with it.

                                    Which UTM? Hopefully not SOnicwall in this case.

                                    Hopefully it IS SonicWall, so that all these stupid issues can be isolated to one bad vendor rather than sprawling across the industry.

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                                    • dbeatoD
                                      dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                                      @dbeato said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                                      @flaxking said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                                      From what I heard from our tech, it sounds like the company's UTM was messing with it.

                                      Which UTM? Hopefully not SOnicwall in this case.

                                      Hopefully it IS SonicWall, so that all these stupid issues can be isolated to one bad vendor rather than sprawling across the industry.

                                      They are not the only one as I can mention many....

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                                        flaxking
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                                        No idea, we don't manage the client's infrastructure

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                                        • StrongBadS
                                          StrongBad @flaxking
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                                          @flaxking said in Office 365 SMTP server not advertising StartTLS:

                                          No idea, we don't manage the client's infrastructure

                                          Then it was definitely the UTM, no question.

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