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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @Donahue
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      @Donahue said in Adding tape drive:

      @scottalanmiller said in Adding tape drive:

      @Donahue said in Adding tape drive:

      @scottalanmiller said in Adding tape drive:

      @Donahue said in Adding tape drive:

      is this a good drive?

      Also, If I am considering the cloud as an option, what is the prefered way to get backups into the cloud? it seems like VTL is one way to go, but I can't tell if that is appropriate for my situation because I have zero existing tape infrastructure. I can do something like copy to a synology, and then just sync that with backblaze. Thoughts?

      VTL doesn't get you to a cloud store, it just makes a cloud store look like tape when your backup won't talk to cloud.

      It seems like a common middle man to get veeam -> to cloud. Thats why I want to know if it is something I should look into or not.

      yes, specifically for Veeam going to unsupported cloud, it will act as a middle man.

      is it better to go straight to one of veeam's cloud partners?

      Tape is way faster and cheaper than "cloud backup" stuff. You'd be better off buying the cheap Amazon archive storage tier and just long term archiving your raw tape back up files to it periodically. Of course ymmv, but in my case it made no sense.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Donahue
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        @Donahue said in Adding tape drive:

        @scottalanmiller said in Adding tape drive:

        @Donahue said in Adding tape drive:

        @scottalanmiller said in Adding tape drive:

        @Donahue said in Adding tape drive:

        is this a good drive?

        Also, If I am considering the cloud as an option, what is the prefered way to get backups into the cloud? it seems like VTL is one way to go, but I can't tell if that is appropriate for my situation because I have zero existing tape infrastructure. I can do something like copy to a synology, and then just sync that with backblaze. Thoughts?

        VTL doesn't get you to a cloud store, it just makes a cloud store look like tape when your backup won't talk to cloud.

        It seems like a common middle man to get veeam -> to cloud. Thats why I want to know if it is something I should look into or not.

        yes, specifically for Veeam going to unsupported cloud, it will act as a middle man.

        is it better to go straight to one of veeam's cloud partners?

        No, it's just important to keep in mind that VTL as a middle man only makes sense in certain scenarios, not as a starting point, unless you want to mimic tape.

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        • DonahueD
          Donahue
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          at this point, I would have to get management buy in to really consider cloud, I want to evaluate the options before hand to know how much I should or shouldn't be pushing for the cloud. Recent conversations with @scottalanmiller have me questioning our historical reasons and motivations for why we use what we use. In my case, we have a mix of prior misinformed speculation and my limited personal experience.

          I don't see a reason to emulate tape if I'm not going to use tape, but I really don't know

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Donahue
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            @Donahue said in Adding tape drive:

            at this point, I would have to get management buy in to really consider cloud, I want to evaluate the options before hand to know how much I should or shouldn't be pushing for the cloud. Recent conversations with @scottalanmiller have me questioning our historical reasons and motivations for why we use what we use. In my case, we have a mix of prior misinformed speculation and my limited personal experience.

            I don't see a reason to emulate tape if I'm not going to use tape, but I really don't know

            Well if you use tape, then no reason to emulate.

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