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    • dbeatoD
      dbeato @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

      Turns out, you have to adjust the heap. This is a normal end user just trying to open her sent folder, and they need to manually make registry keys and DWORD values and increase it.

      They actually require end users to manually edit the registry to be able to use MS Office? This is insane.

      Anyway, it works now.

      It would be like expecting a Linux end user to do bash and work on the command line, doesn't seem to be different in my eyes.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dbeato
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        @dbeato said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

        It would be like expecting a Linux end user to do bash and work on the command line, doesn't seem to be different in my eyes.

        I'd say even worse. BASH commands are trivial compared to Regedit. Regedit is difficult to explain, takes many steps, and is not repeatable.

        BASH commands can be copy/paste.

        And even still, expecting Linux end users to open a shell is ridiculous.

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

          @dbeato said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

          It would be like expecting a Linux end user to do bash and work on the command line, doesn't seem to be different in my eyes.

          I'd say even worse. BASH commands are trivial compared to Regedit. Regedit is difficult to explain, takes many steps, and is not repeatable.

          BASH commands can be copy/paste.

          And even still, expecting Linux end users to open a shell is ridiculous.

          But some programs do ask for it. Microsoft can however make a line for that registry change too, they just make it with more steps since it is a GUI that is doing the changes.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @dbeato
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            @dbeato said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

            @scottalanmiller said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

            @dbeato said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

            It would be like expecting a Linux end user to do bash and work on the command line, doesn't seem to be different in my eyes.

            I'd say even worse. BASH commands are trivial compared to Regedit. Regedit is difficult to explain, takes many steps, and is not repeatable.

            BASH commands can be copy/paste.

            And even still, expecting Linux end users to open a shell is ridiculous.

            But some programs do ask for it. Microsoft can however make a line for that registry change too, they just make it with more steps since it is a GUI that is doing the changes.

            Not applications on par to MS Office. Sure, a crappy third party product on any OS might do it. But apples to apples, you'd be talking about LibreOffice, for example. Trust me, LibreOffice works out of the box, you don't need to go into a registry, add new keys that didn't exist before, get admin access, and be super risky, just to open a spreadsheet.

            This is MS Office we are talking about, not Windows. Name any software comparable to MS Office that requires this from end users on any platform.

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              manxam
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              Seeing as how it IS a 64 installation and is not using more than a couple of gigs of ram as stated in your title post, I'd suggest it's a corrupt profile.

              Is this connected to IMAP or Exchange? If so, why not spin up a new profile and let the mail sync and see what happens?

              The only issues that we ever run into with Outlook are fixed with a new profile which, thankfully, is a quick process -- unless you're using POP3 (kill me now!)

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @manxam
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                @manxam said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

                Seeing as how it IS a 64 installation and is not using more than a couple of gigs of ram as stated in your title post, I'd suggest it's a corrupt profile.

                Is this connected to IMAP or Exchange? If so, why not spin up a new profile and let the mail sync and see what happens?

                The only issues that we ever run into with Outlook are fixed with a new profile which, thankfully, is a quick process -- unless you're using POP3 (kill me now!)

                Connected to Exchange. It is O365.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

                  @dbeato said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

                  It would be like expecting a Linux end user to do bash and work on the command line, doesn't seem to be different in my eyes.

                  I'd say even worse. BASH commands are trivial compared to Regedit. Regedit is difficult to explain, takes many steps, and is not repeatable.

                  BASH commands can be copy/paste.

                  And even still, expecting Linux end users to open a shell is ridiculous.

                  you can edit the registry from a single command line

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @manxam
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                    @manxam said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

                    Seeing as how it IS a 64 installation and is not using more than a couple of gigs of ram as stated in your title post, I'd suggest it's a corrupt profile.

                    Is this connected to IMAP or Exchange? If so, why not spin up a new profile and let the mail sync and see what happens?

                    The only issues that we ever run into with Outlook are fixed with a new profile which, thankfully, is a quick process -- unless you're using POP3 (kill me now!)

                    I tend to agree - this sounds like corruption somewhere, could be the OST, a PST, the user's profile, etc.

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                    • RomoR
                      Romo @manxam
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                      @manxam said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

                      Seeing as how it IS a 64 installation and is not using more than a couple of gigs of ram as stated in your title post, I'd suggest it's a corrupt profile.

                      Is this connected to IMAP or Exchange? If so, why not spin up a new profile and let the mail sync and see what happens?

                      The only issues that we ever run into with Outlook are fixed with a new profile which, thankfully, is a quick process -- unless you're using POP3 (kill me now!)

                      The user has 2 ost files:
                      0_1539632788102_ost-files.png

                      And using cached Exchange Mode
                      0_1539632923895_cached-mode.png

                      She has around 43 user mailboxes as well, thinking this could be whats causing the issues.

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                        manxam @Romo
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                        @romo : What do you mean "43 user mailboxes"? Do you mean that she has delegate access for 43 other mailboxes??

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                        • RomoR
                          Romo @manxam
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                          @manxam Yes

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @manxam
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                            @manxam said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

                            @romo : What do you mean "43 user mailboxes"? Do you mean that she has delegate access for 43 other mailboxes??

                            That's easily possible.

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                              manxam @Romo
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                              @romo : I'm not saying that this is the problem but I suspect it definitely doesn't help. I do have to ask WHY in the world someone would need delegate access to 43 mailboxes?

                              Have you tried recreating the profile yet?

                              I should also state that Outlook really doesn't like OST files of that size. Is that really JUST 1 year of email (as per your sync settings) or was that setting changed well past the 1 year mark?

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                              • RomoR
                                Romo @manxam
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                                @manxam Apparently, she doesn't need all of them so we are going to start removing them. For the moment, I disabled the shared mailboxes to be available offline and she says everything has been working better.

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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite
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                                  Email/Mailbox hoarder!

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @black3dynamite
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                                    @black3dynamite said in Outlook Out of Memory to Open Large Folder:

                                    Email/Mailbox hoarder!

                                    Definitely

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