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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Proper NTP server usage?:

      2016 changes that.

      Changes what?

      Did you misread?

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @Obsolesce
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        @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

        @travisdh1 said in Proper NTP server usage?:

        2016 changes that.

        Changes what?

        Did you misread?

        I did not. I got to deal with a client's domain that was implementing only after 2016 became standard. The primary role holder had no time server configured by default. Their entire network was having the clocks sync to a server without ANY time provider.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @travisdh1
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          @travisdh1 said in Proper NTP server usage?:

          @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

          @travisdh1 said in Proper NTP server usage?:

          2016 changes that.

          Changes what?

          Did you misread?

          I did not. I got to deal with a client's domain that was implementing only after 2016 became standard. The primary role holder had no time server configured by default. Their entire network was having the clocks sync to a server without ANY time provider.

          So where was the PDCE getting the time from?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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            @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

            @travisdh1 said in Proper NTP server usage?:

            @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

            @travisdh1 said in Proper NTP server usage?:

            2016 changes that.

            Changes what?

            Did you misread?

            I did not. I got to deal with a client's domain that was implementing only after 2016 became standard. The primary role holder had no time server configured by default. Their entire network was having the clocks sync to a server without ANY time provider.

            So where was the PDCE getting the time from?

            Hardware by default.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce
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              I just stood up a 2016 DC. I did nothing at all to it, and by default it uses the PDCE as the w32tm /query /source.

              I haven't had a need to stand up a 2016 PDCE, just regular DCs.

              I'm going to stand one up in a lab to see what the source is by default.

              I could have sworn it was time.windows.com and not CMOS. That was 2012 R2 though, I'm curious now.

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @Obsolesce
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                @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                I just stood up a 2016 DC. I did nothing at all to it, and by default it uses the PDCE as the w32tm /query /source.

                I haven't had a need to stand up a 2016 PDCE, just regular DCs.

                I'm going to stand one up in a lab to see what the source is by default.

                I could have sworn it was time.windows.com and not CMOS. That was 2012 R2 though, I'm curious now.

                It has always been CMOS first, that's why all the systems that lose their time over time are due to that. Also any VM prior to booting to the OS regardless or not they have Guest Services enabled, get the time from the Host BIOS.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @dbeato
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                  @dbeato said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                  @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                  I just stood up a 2016 DC. I did nothing at all to it, and by default it uses the PDCE as the w32tm /query /source.

                  I haven't had a need to stand up a 2016 PDCE, just regular DCs.

                  I'm going to stand one up in a lab to see what the source is by default.

                  I could have sworn it was time.windows.com and not CMOS. That was 2012 R2 though, I'm curious now.

                  It has always been CMOS first, that's why all the systems that lose their time over time are due to that. Also any VM prior to booting to the OS regardless or not they have Guest Services enabled, get the time from the Host BIOS.

                  That makes sense. The PDCE I set to use ntp.org very well may have said CMOS before I changed it. But regardless, when you join a pc or server to the domain, it automatically is set to use the PDCE as the time source.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @Obsolesce
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                    @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                    @dbeato said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                    @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                    I just stood up a 2016 DC. I did nothing at all to it, and by default it uses the PDCE as the w32tm /query /source.

                    I haven't had a need to stand up a 2016 PDCE, just regular DCs.

                    I'm going to stand one up in a lab to see what the source is by default.

                    I could have sworn it was time.windows.com and not CMOS. That was 2012 R2 though, I'm curious now.

                    It has always been CMOS first, that's why all the systems that lose their time over time are due to that. Also any VM prior to booting to the OS regardless or not they have Guest Services enabled, get the time from the Host BIOS.

                    That makes sense. The PDCE I set to use ntp.org very well may have said CMOS before I changed it. But regardless, when you join a pc or server to the domain, it automatically is set to use the PDCE as the time source.

                    Yes, in a domain all computers get the time from a DC.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                      @dbeato said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                      @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                      @dbeato said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                      @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                      I just stood up a 2016 DC. I did nothing at all to it, and by default it uses the PDCE as the w32tm /query /source.

                      I haven't had a need to stand up a 2016 PDCE, just regular DCs.

                      I'm going to stand one up in a lab to see what the source is by default.

                      I could have sworn it was time.windows.com and not CMOS. That was 2012 R2 though, I'm curious now.

                      It has always been CMOS first, that's why all the systems that lose their time over time are due to that. Also any VM prior to booting to the OS regardless or not they have Guest Services enabled, get the time from the Host BIOS.

                      That makes sense. The PDCE I set to use ntp.org very well may have said CMOS before I changed it. But regardless, when you join a pc or server to the domain, it automatically is set to use the PDCE as the time source.

                      Yes, in a domain all computers get the time from a DC.

                      They SHOULD anyway.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                        @dbeato said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                        @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                        @dbeato said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                        @obsolesce said in Proper NTP server usage?:

                        I just stood up a 2016 DC. I did nothing at all to it, and by default it uses the PDCE as the w32tm /query /source.

                        I haven't had a need to stand up a 2016 PDCE, just regular DCs.

                        I'm going to stand one up in a lab to see what the source is by default.

                        I could have sworn it was time.windows.com and not CMOS. That was 2012 R2 though, I'm curious now.

                        It has always been CMOS first, that's why all the systems that lose their time over time are due to that. Also any VM prior to booting to the OS regardless or not they have Guest Services enabled, get the time from the Host BIOS.

                        That makes sense. The PDCE I set to use ntp.org very well may have said CMOS before I changed it. But regardless, when you join a pc or server to the domain, it automatically is set to use the PDCE as the time source.

                        Yes, in a domain all computers get the time from a DC.

                        They SHOULD anyway.

                        Yeah, that's important to note, should is the keyword.

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