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    • EddieJenningsE
      EddieJennings @IRJ
      last edited by

      @irj said in CISSP:

      I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

      @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

      My $0.02, the concepts I learned during my CCNA training were useful. Is there a particular aspect of networking for which you're wanting to sharpen your skills?

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      • IRJI
        IRJ @EddieJennings
        last edited by

        @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

        @irj said in CISSP:

        I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

        @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

        My $0.02, the concepts I learned during my CCNA training were useful. Is there a particular aspect of networking for which you're wanting to sharpen your skills?

        I figure that if I want to be a cyber security architect. I better know networking inside and out. I am not starting from scratch as I have Network + and CISSP itself has alot of networking in it.

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        • KellyK
          Kelly @IRJ
          last edited by

          @irj said in CISSP:

          @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

          @irj said in CISSP:

          I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

          @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

          My $0.02, the concepts I learned during my CCNA training were useful. Is there a particular aspect of networking for which you're wanting to sharpen your skills?

          I figure that if I want to be a cyber security architect. I better know networking inside and out. I am not starting from scratch as I have Network + and CISSP itself has alot of networking in it.

          You probably wouldn't learn much from a CCNA except for how to do it the Cisco way on Cisco devices. Not a terrible skill to acquire, but maybe not helpful in the long term for your goals.

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          • jmooreJ
            jmoore @Kelly
            last edited by

            @kelly Well I guess if you don't see yourself using cisco any time soon, then questions is what next to continue with networking?

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            • KellyK
              Kelly @jmoore
              last edited by

              @jmoore said in CISSP:

              @kelly Well I guess if you don't see yourself using cisco any time soon, then questions is what next to continue with networking?

              I am not aware of any vendor agnostic high level certifications in networking. It really depends on what level of networking we're talking about. Higher than CCNA or equivalent is getting into some very specialized skill sets that might be more than is needed for a CSA.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
                last edited by

                @irj said in CISSP:

                I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

                @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

                I don't recommend it... if your goal isn't specifically what it does. Cisco is the only high end networking cert, but most people only talk about going for entry level Cisco certs that are totally garbage. Once you are talking CCIE, there isn't anything else out there.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                  last edited by

                  @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                  @irj said in CISSP:

                  I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

                  @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

                  My $0.02, the concepts I learned during my CCNA training were useful. Is there a particular aspect of networking for which you're wanting to sharpen your skills?

                  Is there anything not covered by the Network+, though?

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                  • EddieJenningsE
                    EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by EddieJennings

                    @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                    @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                    @irj said in CISSP:

                    I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

                    @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

                    My $0.02, the concepts I learned during my CCNA training were useful. Is there a particular aspect of networking for which you're wanting to sharpen your skills?

                    Is there anything not covered by the Network+, though?

                    From what I remember (from a few years ago), there was more information about routing protocols and such on CCNA. I will say most of the CCNA though was how to configure Cisco devices for [insert network function here].

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                      last edited by

                      @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                      @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                      @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                      @irj said in CISSP:

                      I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

                      @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

                      My $0.02, the concepts I learned during my CCNA training were useful. Is there a particular aspect of networking for which you're wanting to sharpen your skills?

                      Is there anything not covered by the Network+, though?

                      From what I remember (from a few years ago), there was more information about routing protocols and such on CCNA. I will say most of the CCNA though was how to configure Cisco devices for [insert network function here].

                      Who uses routing protocols? That's enterprise only, and network team only. Useless in general.

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                      • KellyK
                        Kelly @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                        @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                        @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                        @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                        @irj said in CISSP:

                        I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

                        @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

                        My $0.02, the concepts I learned during my CCNA training were useful. Is there a particular aspect of networking for which you're wanting to sharpen your skills?

                        Is there anything not covered by the Network+, though?

                        From what I remember (from a few years ago), there was more information about routing protocols and such on CCNA. I will say most of the CCNA though was how to configure Cisco devices for [insert network function here].

                        Who uses routing protocols? That's enterprise only, and network team only. Useless in general.

                        @IRJ will need to understand them for CSA work.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Kelly
                          last edited by

                          @kelly said in CISSP:

                          @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                          @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                          @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                          @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                          @irj said in CISSP:

                          I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

                          @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

                          My $0.02, the concepts I learned during my CCNA training were useful. Is there a particular aspect of networking for which you're wanting to sharpen your skills?

                          Is there anything not covered by the Network+, though?

                          From what I remember (from a few years ago), there was more information about routing protocols and such on CCNA. I will say most of the CCNA though was how to configure Cisco devices for [insert network function here].

                          Who uses routing protocols? That's enterprise only, and network team only. Useless in general.

                          @IRJ will need to understand them for CSA work.

                          Yes, but not at the CCNA level.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            My point was, and has always been, that the CCNA doesn't make sense on its own. Not that networking doesn't make sense or that Cisco certs don't make sense. Only that the big trend to go after the CCNA doesn't make sense as it isn't senior enough to do any good in a Cisco or routing shop, and not as good as the Network+ for non-Cisco work. The CCNA's purpose is as a stepping stone into the CCNP, not as a replacement for general networking cert exams.

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                            • KellyK
                              Kelly @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                              @kelly said in CISSP:

                              @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                              @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                              @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                              @eddiejennings said in CISSP:

                              @irj said in CISSP:

                              I think my next goal will be CISSP Architect. I will need to take some networking courses to brush up on my networking. Then I can pursue CISSP Architect

                              @scottalanmiller doesn't recommend Cisco, if I remember. What are some decent alternatives? I already have Network +

                              My $0.02, the concepts I learned during my CCNA training were useful. Is there a particular aspect of networking for which you're wanting to sharpen your skills?

                              Is there anything not covered by the Network+, though?

                              From what I remember (from a few years ago), there was more information about routing protocols and such on CCNA. I will say most of the CCNA though was how to configure Cisco devices for [insert network function here].

                              Who uses routing protocols? That's enterprise only, and network team only. Useless in general.

                              @IRJ will need to understand them for CSA work.

                              Yes, but not at the CCNA level.

                              Why not? He just needs to learn the fundamentals of routing, the different protocols used, and deal with some troubleshooting scenarios. As an architect he doesn't need to know the intricacies of BGP or any of the deeper routing things covered in the CCNP.

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                              • NetworkNerdN
                                NetworkNerd
                                last edited by

                                What about certified ethical hacker or something like that to compliment the CISSP?

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by Obsolesce

                                  @scottalanmiller said in CISSP:

                                  My point was, and has always been, that the CCNA doesn't make sense on its own. Not that networking doesn't make sense or that Cisco certs don't make sense. Only that the big trend to go after the CCNA doesn't make sense as it isn't senior enough to do any good in a Cisco or routing shop, and not as good as the Network+ for non-Cisco work. The CCNA's purpose is as a stepping stone into the CCNP, not as a replacement for general networking cert exams.

                                  The CCNA, like the MCSA, is also a vendor marketing tool to get people to use their product. Educate more people, they'll utilize more of your product.

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ @NetworkNerd
                                    last edited by

                                    @networknerd said in CISSP:

                                    What about certified ethical hacker or something like that to compliment the CISSP?

                                    I already have CEH

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                                    • KellyK
                                      Kelly
                                      last edited by

                                      My suggestion would be to look at the solutions that you're going to be implementing/recommending and then hit those vendor certs (assuming they have ones). I'd be more inclined to look at Juniper or Palo Alto as alternatives to Cisco.

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                                      • momurdaM
                                        momurda @IRJ
                                        last edited by

                                        @irj Why not try for GSE?

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ @momurda
                                          last edited by IRJ

                                          @momurda said in CISSP:

                                          @irj Why not try for GSE?

                                          That one definitely looks brutal 😮

                                          https://www.giac.org/certification/security-expert-gse

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                                          • momurdaM
                                            momurda @IRJ
                                            last edited by momurda

                                            @irj Yea, even getting the prereqs for it seems a huge challenge. I will get GSEC one day.
                                            and then choose a path
                                            https://www.giac.org/certifications/get-certified/roadmap

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