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    • WrCombsW
      WrCombs @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

      Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

      Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @WrCombs
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        @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

        @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

        Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

        Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

        /me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

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        • WrCombsW
          WrCombs @dafyre
          last edited by

          @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

          @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

          @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

          Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

          Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

          /me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

          LOL

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          • Emad RE
            Emad R @WrCombs
            last edited by Emad R

            @wrcombs

            Safe mode with network ? what happens ?

            What about try running the below before mount

            @REM delete all previous network drives#
            net use * /del /yes 
            
            @REM purge cached Kerberos authentication tickets#
            klist purge
            
            @REM newer way of automating the removal of all stored credentials.
            cmdkey.exe /list > "%TEMP%\List.txt"
            findstr.exe Target "%TEMP%\List.txt" > "%TEMP%\tokensonly.txt"
            FOR /F "tokens=1,2 delims= " %%G IN (%TEMP%\tokensonly.txt) DO cmdkey.exe /delete:%%H
            del "%TEMP%\List.txt" /s /f /q
            del "%TEMP%\tokensonly.txt" /s /f /q
            
            @REM killing explorer last step to prepare for the actual share mount
            taskkill /f /im explorer.exe & ping 127.0.0.1 -n 3 & start /im explorer.exe
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            • WrCombsW
              WrCombs @1337
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              @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

              @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

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              So it's the BOOTDRV share that the terminals connect to?

              yes

              So connecting to the back office server (with the right username replaced below) what was the response?

                net use \\192.168.128.xxx\BOOTDRV /user:username
              
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                1337 @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

                @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

                Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

                Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

                /me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

                Well, lets check back in a couple of hours. Actually windows will reset some settings when you install some updates.

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                • WrCombsW
                  WrCombs @1337
                  last edited by

                  @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

                  @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

                  @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                  @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

                  Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

                  Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

                  /me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

                  Well, lets check back in a couple of hours. Actually windows will reset some settings when you install some updates.

                  Sounds like a plan.

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                    1337 @WrCombs
                    last edited by 1337

                    @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                    @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

                    @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

                    @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                    @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

                    Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

                    Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

                    /me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

                    Well, lets check back in a couple of hours. Actually windows will reset some settings when you install some updates.

                    Sounds like a plan.

                    Some of the next steps to troubleshoot are:

                    • open the share on the back office server from the back office server itself (this eliminates the network outside the machine)
                    • if above doesn't work check that the "File and Printer sharing from Microsoft Networks"-setting is enabled on the LAN interface properties.
                    • install and run a portscanner from one terminal to see that the ports are actually open over the network.
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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce
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                      Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

                      But is 802.1x being used?

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                      • WrCombsW
                        WrCombs @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

                        Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

                        But is 802.1x being used?

                        802.1x ? What is that and why would it be used?

                        IEEE 802.1X is an IEEE Standard for port-based Network Access Control (PNAC). It is part of the IEEE 802.1 group of networking protocols. It provides an authentication mechanism to devices wishing to attach to a LAN or WLAN. This is what i get when i google 802.1x
                        Is this what youre talking about?

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @WrCombs
                          last edited by

                          @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                          @obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

                          Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

                          But is 802.1x being used?

                          802.1x ? What is that and why would it be used?

                          IEEE 802.1X is an IEEE Standard for port-based Network Access Control (PNAC). It is part of the IEEE 802.1 group of networking protocols. It provides an authentication mechanism to devices wishing to attach to a LAN or WLAN. This is what i get when i google 802.1x
                          Is this what youre talking about?

                          Yes

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

                            @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                            @obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

                            Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

                            But is 802.1x being used?

                            802.1x ? What is that and why would it be used?

                            IEEE 802.1X is an IEEE Standard for port-based Network Access Control (PNAC). It is part of the IEEE 802.1 group of networking protocols. It provides an authentication mechanism to devices wishing to attach to a LAN or WLAN. This is what i get when i google 802.1x
                            Is this what youre talking about?

                            Yes

                            This is the first time im ever hearing of this so im sure the answer to that is no

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                            • KellyK
                              Kelly
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                              I'm facing a parallel issue where a workgroup share is inaccessible, so I've been doing a lot of testing. One of things I've noticed in my tests is that when the Windows Firewall is off then port 445 closes automatically. Have you tried it with the firewalls on, but with SMB-In configured properly in the firewall settings?

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                              • WrCombsW
                                WrCombs @Kelly
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                                @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                I'm facing a parallel issue where a workgroup share is inaccessible, so I've been doing a lot of testing. One of things I've noticed in my tests is that when the Windows Firewall is off then port 445 closes automatically. Have you tried it with the firewalls on, but with SMB-In configured properly in the firewall settings?

                                I have not..

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                                • KellyK
                                  Kelly @Kelly
                                  last edited by

                                  You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

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                                    WrCombs @Kelly
                                    last edited by

                                    @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                    You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                                    I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

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                                    • KellyK
                                      Kelly @WrCombs
                                      last edited by

                                      @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                                      @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                      You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                                      I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                                      https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

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                                        1337 @Kelly
                                        last edited by

                                        @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                        @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                                        @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                        You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                                        I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                                        https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

                                        Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

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                                        • KellyK
                                          Kelly @1337
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                                          @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

                                          @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                          @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                                          @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                          You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                                          I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                                          https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

                                          Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

                                          I would use Nmap on my system, but for troubleshooting a client machine I'd rather use something lighter and faster. YMMV

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                                            1337 @Kelly
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                                            @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                            @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

                                            @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                            @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                                            @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                            You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                                            I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                                            https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

                                            Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

                                            I would use Nmap on my system, but for troubleshooting a client machine I'd rather use something lighter and faster. YMMV

                                            Yes, but installing the complete openssh server on windows isn't light weight.
                                            For telnet and ssh client it's better to just run putty.exe in that case.
                                            https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html

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