Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup
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We currently have an endpoint backup solution for our users Desktop & My Documents folders. C Drive is hidden from users via GPO, so the only available location for them to access is Desktop & My Documents. Since a lot of the users are offsite (some of them are on actual work sites where there is no internet, they usually come back to the office after few days and update their works) we find it difficult to get all of their backup completed successfully as it is very rare that the user is available at the same time the backup scheduled on his/her machine. It's not a real-time backup solution, instead, a traditional scheduled backup and due to the fact that users might not be available online during the set time of backup schedule, I am looking for alternatives which sync the files as and when they have internet available.
We have O365E3 and ODFB 1TB/user, I am thinking of using that and stop the old backup. I've moved my Desktop & MyDocuments folders to ODFB location and is syncing the folders there. Files are still syncing and I will be testing this for few weeks. The ideal option is to set this for all users, but doing this manually (redirecting Desktop & MyDocuments) for all of our users would be a time-consuming task.
Maybe will inform the users that they have to keep all their files under the OneDrive folder and only that will be backed-up and stop them from using Desktop & MyDocuments as a policy and enable longer retention on ODFB admin center.
I would like to hear from you all about this, and share any experiences you have with ODFB with the latest client.
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So you plan to have a backup tool that will take a backup of the ODfB? In that case, seems reasonable.
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could be an option to set the redirection & configuration via GPO
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@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
could be an option to set the redirection & configuration via GPO
Getting files TO ODfB is relatively easy. Protecting them on there, is the pain. Totally doable, just a pain.
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OMG, still doing PBX stuff.
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I actually do something like that for my users but we are using Nextcloud instead.
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@black3dynamite said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
I actually do something like that for my users but we are using Nextcloud instead.
We are on Linux. So we "something similar", but between NextCloud instead of ODfB, and Fedora 28 Cinnamon instead of Windows 10... not all that similar
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@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
So you plan to have a backup tool that will take a backup of the ODfB? In that case, seems reasonable.
I was thinking of replacing the backup tool and just use ODFB
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@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@black3dynamite said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
I actually do something like that for my users but we are using Nextcloud instead.
We are on Linux. So we "something similar", but between NextCloud instead of ODfB, and Fedora 28 Cinnamon instead of Windows 10... not all that similar
Do you create symbolic links for folders like Desktop and Documents and have them pointing to the same folders within Nextcloud folder?
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@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
could be an option to set the redirection & configuration via GPO
Getting files TO ODfB is relatively easy. Protecting them on there, is the pain. Totally doable, just a pain.
I am curious to know about the protecting part, does it mean someone lost files from ODFB?
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@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
could be an option to set the redirection & configuration via GPO
Getting files TO ODfB is relatively easy. Protecting them on there, is the pain. Totally doable, just a pain.
I am curious to know about the protecting part, does it mean someone lost files from ODFB?
Well I have, for one
But I'm not saying ODfB is scary, just that it doesn't have traditional backups taken of it unless you use a third party product that does that. So think of it like NextCloud, you'd want to take backups of your NextCloud server, you'll want to take them of ODfB, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
could be an option to set the redirection & configuration via GPO
Getting files TO ODfB is relatively easy. Protecting them on there, is the pain. Totally doable, just a pain.
I am curious to know about the protecting part, does it mean someone lost files from ODFB?
Well I have, for one
But I'm not saying ODfB is scary, just that it doesn't have traditional backups taken of it unless you use a third party product that does that. So think of it like NextCloud, you'd want to take backups of your NextCloud server, you'll want to take them of ODfB, too.
Maybe I should think of stopping the endpoint backup and think of having ODFB and then use something like Veeam backup for O365?
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@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
could be an option to set the redirection & configuration via GPO
Getting files TO ODfB is relatively easy. Protecting them on there, is the pain. Totally doable, just a pain.
I am curious to know about the protecting part, does it mean someone lost files from ODFB?
Well I have, for one
But I'm not saying ODfB is scary, just that it doesn't have traditional backups taken of it unless you use a third party product that does that. So think of it like NextCloud, you'd want to take backups of your NextCloud server, you'll want to take them of ODfB, too.
Maybe I should think of stopping the endpoint backup and think of having ODFB and then use something like Veeam backup for O365?
Yes, that's not a bad idea.
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@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
could be an option to set the redirection & configuration via GPO
Getting files TO ODfB is relatively easy. Protecting them on there, is the pain. Totally doable, just a pain.
I am curious to know about the protecting part, does it mean someone lost files from ODFB?
Well I have, for one
But I'm not saying ODfB is scary, just that it doesn't have traditional backups taken of it unless you use a third party product that does that. So think of it like NextCloud, you'd want to take backups of your NextCloud server, you'll want to take them of ODfB, too.
Maybe I should think of stopping the endpoint backup and think of having ODFB and then use something like Veeam backup for O365?
Yes, that's not a bad idea.
We do have our mail backup on Barracuda Mail archiver, so I need to find something specific to SharePoint & ODFB only
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@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
could be an option to set the redirection & configuration via GPO
Getting files TO ODfB is relatively easy. Protecting them on there, is the pain. Totally doable, just a pain.
I am curious to know about the protecting part, does it mean someone lost files from ODFB?
Well I have, for one
But I'm not saying ODfB is scary, just that it doesn't have traditional backups taken of it unless you use a third party product that does that. So think of it like NextCloud, you'd want to take backups of your NextCloud server, you'll want to take them of ODfB, too.
Maybe I should think of stopping the endpoint backup and think of having ODFB and then use something like Veeam backup for O365?
Yes, that's not a bad idea.
We do have our mail backup on Barracuda Mail archiver, so I need to find something specific to SharePoint & ODFB only
Anyone using any products for ODFB backup
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Surely this can be done through the API?
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Well I see what you're looking to do, OneDrive wasn't meant to be a redirect for desktop and mydocs.
You might be able to find a backup solution that can be centrally manage and point backups for the end users to their individual onedrive folders.
I'm not sure of any off hand that can do this for certain though. . UrBackup is pretty flexible, and it might work. . .
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@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@scottalanmiller said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
@ambarishrh said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
could be an option to set the redirection & configuration via GPO
Getting files TO ODfB is relatively easy. Protecting them on there, is the pain. Totally doable, just a pain.
I am curious to know about the protecting part, does it mean someone lost files from ODFB?
Well I have, for one
But I'm not saying ODfB is scary, just that it doesn't have traditional backups taken of it unless you use a third party product that does that. So think of it like NextCloud, you'd want to take backups of your NextCloud server, you'll want to take them of ODfB, too.
Odfb has version control now, as well as sever tiers of recycle bin and ransom ware protection. I'm not really sure what a 4th+ copy of Odfb data gives you.
I'm sure there are cases for it, but not typically as with your own Nextcloud. There, is only one copy of data and no version control or geo redundancy.
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If you want to do real backups of Odfb, you need a good 3rd party software like Veeam Odfb backup or something like that.
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@dustinb3403 said in Evaluating OneDrive for Business to replace traditional end point backup:
Well I see what you're looking to do, OneDrive wasn't meant to be a redirect for desktop and mydocs.
Actually, OD is designed for it. Windows even tells you that you cannot undo moving your profile folders to the OD foler when you try to do it. But then yes, it keeps it synced on all devices, etc.
