First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .
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@jmoore said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
yeah hypervisor then various vm's within it for learning experience.
I have some (very little) experience with Vms using oracle Virtual Box. Most of that was because when i first started with ML i had to use a family computer and used Virtual Box to run my own OS and Store all of my info, then i got a my laptop and have been using it ever since. ( were talking 3 years ago ish)
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@dustinb3403 said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@bnrstnr said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
Don't forget about how loud your server might be. If it's going on your desk it might make it a little uncomfortable.
It's also fun to shove the server in your basement or someplace that isn't as easily accessible so you can get that little extra remoting experience lol
Thats a good Idea. Thanks!
For that approach though, you should just rent a server from Colocation America.
I looked into Vultr a little bit, I just wanted a local hardware, So i can do everything right there.
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Ryzen 7 1700 and disable SMT so you get 8/8 threads.
Good AM4 mobo with M2 Storage + 8 SATA ports
And thats it you can do alot starting from this, with alot of research you can enable ECC support on Ryzen 7 and on certain mobos
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@wrcombs I'm no expert but for a learning experience like you want I think you would want to use hyper-v or kvm for your hypervisor. Whichever you choose, do both windows and linux stuff if you don't want to specialize yet. I recently went down this road too.
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@jmoore said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
.... kvm for your hypervisor. Whichever you choose, do both windows and linux stuff if you don't want to specialize yet.
Im not ready for that kind of commitment
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@wrcombs lol
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@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
Thinking about building my own server, strictly for home use, backups and external storage (if i sound like an idiot, bear with me.)
What would everyone recommend ?Whats a good place to start?
I want to try new things and expand as much as possible in IT.
Thanks.
Edit I want to be able to manage a server for my house just to use the experience.
So think about what experience you want....
Do you want "real server experience" so that you can tell a potential employer about it? Then you want that experience to be on a real server like Dell PowerEdge or HPE Proliant.
Do you want to learn "how server parts are chosen" then parting something out and building it yourself might make more sense, but will cost a lot more.
Do you just want it to fulfill some roles in your home, then buying a nice consumer NAS is cheaper and quieter.
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@scottalanmiller said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
Thinking about building my own server, strictly for home use, backups and external storage (if i sound like an idiot, bear with me.)
What would everyone recommend ?Whats a good place to start?
I want to try new things and expand as much as possible in IT.
Thanks.
Edit I want to be able to manage a server for my house just to use the experience.
So think about what experience you want....
Do you want "real server experience" so that you can tell a potential employer about it? Then you want that experience to be on a real server like Dell PowerEdge or HPE Proliant.
Main goal is to be able to tell an employer about what I did on my own at home just to learn it.
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@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@scottalanmiller said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
Thinking about building my own server, strictly for home use, backups and external storage (if i sound like an idiot, bear with me.)
What would everyone recommend ?Whats a good place to start?
I want to try new things and expand as much as possible in IT.
Thanks.
Edit I want to be able to manage a server for my house just to use the experience.
So think about what experience you want....
Do you want "real server experience" so that you can tell a potential employer about it? Then you want that experience to be on a real server like Dell PowerEdge or HPE Proliant.
Main goal is to be able to tell an employer about what I did on my own at home just to learn it.
Then what you do at home has to be relevant to or the same as the work you'll be doing for the job you're applying for.
Use a real server, set up the same environment you'll find in an SMB or Enterprise.
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@obsolesce, pricing seems anecdotal at best. Specs don't match and no time frame was mentioned. Bring me any future deals. As long as we have it, we usually win.
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@bradfromxbyte said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@obsolesce, pricing seems anecdotal at best. Specs don't match and no time frame was mentioned. Bring me any future deals. As long as we have it, we usually win.
Will do.
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So after i get the server: what would be my first steps in setting up?
Any threads here on ML? -
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@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
So after i get the server: what would be my first steps in setting up?
Any threads here on ML?Possibly firmware updates, get your Drac/iLO setup, setup RAID array, then install whatever hypervisor you choose.
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@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
So after i get the server: what would be my first steps in setting up?
Any threads here on ML?Each month/weeks try hypervisor on it, till you find the one you like the most.
Hyper-V
ESXi
KVMAnd afterwards you will be knowledgeable of all stuff, try going deep abit like Replication VMs and migration and backing up.
After you loved on brand of hypervisors, you can then build VMs on it for family/ friends and treat them as clients like scott alan miller wrote about this idea a while back.
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@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@tonyknobel said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs Physical space -- how big do you want it?
Small enough to fit on my desk
No real server is going to fit there.
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@scottalanmiller said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@tonyknobel said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs Physical space -- how big do you want it?
Small enough to fit on my desk
No real server is going to fit there
Well around as small as possible.
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@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@scottalanmiller said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@tonyknobel said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs Physical space -- how big do you want it?
Small enough to fit on my desk
No real server is going to fit there
Well around as small as possible.
A real server is the size of a desk and sounds like a jet engine.
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@scottalanmiller said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@scottalanmiller said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@tonyknobel said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:
@wrcombs Physical space -- how big do you want it?
Small enough to fit on my desk
No real server is going to fit there
Well around as small as possible.
A real server is the size of a desk and sounds like a jet engine.
Sounds wonderful.. Glad I have a basement! lol
