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    • Emad RE
      Emad R @FATeknollogee
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      @fateknollogee

      Very good more pics and stuff please, did you face any hosts disconnections I faced that alot

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @FATeknollogee
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        @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

        @francesco-provino This is a 3 + 1 node hyperconverged cluster with Gluster, HA, Live Migration etc!

        That's what I was wondering. I didn't know if it was a self hosted engine (couldn't think of the name last night) or multiple node setup.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
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          @stacksofplates said in Testing oVirt...:

          @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

          @francesco-provino This is a 3 + 1 node hyperconverged cluster with Gluster, HA, Live Migration etc!

          That's what I was wondering. I didn't know if it was a self hosted engine (couldn't think of the name last night) or multiple node setup.

          This setup uses the Hosted Engine.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @Emad R
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            @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

            @fateknollogee

            Very good more pics and stuff please, did you face any hosts disconnections I faced that alot

            No host disconnections at all.
            The current version (4.2.5) is very easy to setup.
            I will post some pics of an upcoming version, oVirt Node (4.3) based on Fedora 28.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee
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              oVirt Node v4.3 (based on Fedora 28) - this is pre-release:

              0_1533637604798_gluster_deployment.png

              0_1533637615089_step2_fqdns.png

              0_1533637623806_step3_packages.png

              0_1533637637986_step4_volumes.png

              0_1533637646286_step5_bricks.png

              0_1533637654853_step5_bricks_2.png

              0_1533637662108_step6_review.png

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                So you're saying ovirt is pushing the Xen guys to get into gear as this appears to be the entire package, with FOSS.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                  last edited by FATeknollogee

                  @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                  So you're saying ovirt is pushing the Xen guys to get into gear as this appears to be the entire package, with FOSS.

                  I believe oVirt is being billed as "vSphere for FOSS"

                  You're probably not going to move the Xen/XS/XCP-ng guys off their spot.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre
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                    Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                    ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                      @dafyre said in Testing oVirt...:

                      Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                      ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

                      I tried setting up oVirt a few versions ago and from what I could find, it's almost expected you have a minimum of 3 physical hosts for it.

                      So no, you won't be able to manage a standalone KVM server since everything has to get built to be managed by the oVirt Engine.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said in Testing oVirt...:

                        Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                        ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

                        Unfortunately not.

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                        • Emad RE
                          Emad R @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @fateknollogee

                          Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                          saw you choose an option with RAID 6, i dont get that cause from my trial, I make RAID and group disks then create Gluster volume from those mdraid volume, but it seems you did RAID 6 afterwards, hmm whats the logic behind that ?

                          What type of Gluster volume are you using, just distributed ?

                          I m still learning HCI so thus the beginner vibe

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                          • Emad RE
                            Emad R @Francesco Provino
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                            @francesco-provino said in Testing oVirt...:

                            Any real advantage vs plain KVM?

                            Scaling KVM basically, if you have 1 or 2 KVM servers thats fine, but if you want more you need better management that logging in each one.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @Emad R
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                              @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                              @fateknollogee

                              Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                              saw you choose an option with RAID 6, i dont get that cause from my trial, I make RAID and group disks then create Gluster volume from those mdraid volume, but it seems you did RAID 6 afterwards, hmm whats the logic behind that ?

                              What type of Gluster volume are you using, just distributed ?

                              I m still learning HCI so thus the beginner vibe

                              No RAID6, I'm using RAID10.

                              Gluster volume is Replicate + Arbiter

                              This is a good blog post to get you started: https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2018/02/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-2-and-gluster-storage/

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                                @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                @dafyre said in Testing oVirt...:

                                Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                                ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

                                I tried setting up oVirt a few versions ago and from what I could find, it's almost expected you have a minimum of 3 physical hosts for it.

                                So no, you won't be able to manage a standalone KVM server since everything has to get built to be managed by the oVirt Engine.

                                You can now do a single host w Gluster:
                                https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/gluster-hyperconverged/chap-Single_node_hyperconverged/

                                Here's a screenshot of my single node install:
                                0_1533646725168_screenshot_27.png

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @Emad R
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                                  @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                                  @fateknollogee

                                  Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                                  Not sure, since I'm new to the whole Gluster concept.

                                  saw you choose an option with RAID 6, i dont get that cause from my trial, I make RAID and group disks then create Gluster volume from those mdraid volume, but it seems you did RAID 6 afterwards, hmm whats the logic behind that ?

                                  Hardware RAID is recommended instead of MDADM.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                                    @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                    Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                      Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

                                      Nope...
                                      The folks at RH say, currently, performance is better with HW RAID & that is how most of their testing/validation is done.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                        Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

                                        Nope...
                                        The folks at RH say, currently, performance is better with HW RAID & that is how most of their testing/validation is done.

                                        That's odd, but okay. I would generally think they make the recommendation because they know there is a huge lack of understanding on how software raid needs to be managed.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @Emad R
                                          last edited by travisdh1

                                          @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          @fateknollogee

                                          Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                                          I'm guessing you really don't know much about Gluster and it's history?
                                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluster

                                          Think of it like RAID, but spread over a network instead of locally. It's been around since 2005, and is used by some very large cloud providers today.

                                          So I feel totally safe with it, and actually deployed it once. Great platform when it's needed, and a complete waste of time when it's not.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @travisdh1
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                                            @travisdh1 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            @fateknollogee

                                            Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                                            I'm guessing you really don't know much about Gluster and it's history?
                                            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluster

                                            Think of it like RAID, but spread over a network instead of locally. It's been around since 2005, and is used by some very large cloud providers today.

                                            So I feel totally safe with it, and actually deployed it once. Great platform when it's needed, and a complete waste of time when it's not.

                                            That and Gluster is not a replacement for good backups. 😄

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