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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite @Francesco Provino
      last edited by black3dynamite

      @francesco-provino said in Testing oVirt...:

      Any real advantage vs plain KVM?

      oVirt is more in line with RHEV. If all you want to do is run VMs, a plain KVM setup is a simple.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @Francesco Provino
        last edited by FATeknollogee

        @francesco-provino This is a 3 + 1 node hyperconverged cluster with Gluster, HA, Live Migration etc!

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        • Emad RE
          Emad R @FATeknollogee
          last edited by

          @fateknollogee

          Very good more pics and stuff please, did you face any hosts disconnections I faced that alot

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

            @francesco-provino This is a 3 + 1 node hyperconverged cluster with Gluster, HA, Live Migration etc!

            That's what I was wondering. I didn't know if it was a self hosted engine (couldn't think of the name last night) or multiple node setup.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
              last edited by

              @stacksofplates said in Testing oVirt...:

              @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

              @francesco-provino This is a 3 + 1 node hyperconverged cluster with Gluster, HA, Live Migration etc!

              That's what I was wondering. I didn't know if it was a self hosted engine (couldn't think of the name last night) or multiple node setup.

              This setup uses the Hosted Engine.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @Emad R
                last edited by

                @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                @fateknollogee

                Very good more pics and stuff please, did you face any hosts disconnections I faced that alot

                No host disconnections at all.
                The current version (4.2.5) is very easy to setup.
                I will post some pics of an upcoming version, oVirt Node (4.3) based on Fedora 28.

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  oVirt Node v4.3 (based on Fedora 28) - this is pre-release:

                  0_1533637604798_gluster_deployment.png

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    So you're saying ovirt is pushing the Xen guys to get into gear as this appears to be the entire package, with FOSS.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                      last edited by FATeknollogee

                      @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                      So you're saying ovirt is pushing the Xen guys to get into gear as this appears to be the entire package, with FOSS.

                      I believe oVirt is being billed as "vSphere for FOSS"

                      You're probably not going to move the Xen/XS/XCP-ng guys off their spot.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre
                        last edited by

                        Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                        ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said in Testing oVirt...:

                          Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                          ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

                          I tried setting up oVirt a few versions ago and from what I could find, it's almost expected you have a minimum of 3 physical hosts for it.

                          So no, you won't be able to manage a standalone KVM server since everything has to get built to be managed by the oVirt Engine.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in Testing oVirt...:

                            Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                            ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

                            Unfortunately not.

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                            • Emad RE
                              Emad R @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @fateknollogee

                              Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                              saw you choose an option with RAID 6, i dont get that cause from my trial, I make RAID and group disks then create Gluster volume from those mdraid volume, but it seems you did RAID 6 afterwards, hmm whats the logic behind that ?

                              What type of Gluster volume are you using, just distributed ?

                              I m still learning HCI so thus the beginner vibe

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                              • Emad RE
                                Emad R @Francesco Provino
                                last edited by

                                @francesco-provino said in Testing oVirt...:

                                Any real advantage vs plain KVM?

                                Scaling KVM basically, if you have 1 or 2 KVM servers thats fine, but if you want more you need better management that logging in each one.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @Emad R
                                  last edited by

                                  @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                                  @fateknollogee

                                  Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                                  saw you choose an option with RAID 6, i dont get that cause from my trial, I make RAID and group disks then create Gluster volume from those mdraid volume, but it seems you did RAID 6 afterwards, hmm whats the logic behind that ?

                                  What type of Gluster volume are you using, just distributed ?

                                  I m still learning HCI so thus the beginner vibe

                                  No RAID6, I'm using RAID10.

                                  Gluster volume is Replicate + Arbiter

                                  This is a good blog post to get you started: https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2018/02/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-2-and-gluster-storage/

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    @dafyre said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    Can we use the oVirt system to manage an existing KVM server?
                                    ( I want to try oVirt, but really don't want to wipe out the system I currently have set up )

                                    I tried setting up oVirt a few versions ago and from what I could find, it's almost expected you have a minimum of 3 physical hosts for it.

                                    So no, you won't be able to manage a standalone KVM server since everything has to get built to be managed by the oVirt Engine.

                                    You can now do a single host w Gluster:
                                    https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/gluster-hyperconverged/chap-Single_node_hyperconverged/

                                    Here's a screenshot of my single node install:
                                    0_1533646725168_screenshot_27.png

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @Emad R
                                      last edited by

                                      @emad-r said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      @fateknollogee

                                      Let us talk about Gluster, how do you feel safe with it ?

                                      Not sure, since I'm new to the whole Gluster concept.

                                      saw you choose an option with RAID 6, i dont get that cause from my trial, I make RAID and group disks then create Gluster volume from those mdraid volume, but it seems you did RAID 6 afterwards, hmm whats the logic behind that ?

                                      Hardware RAID is recommended instead of MDADM.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                        Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                          Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

                                          Nope...
                                          The folks at RH say, currently, performance is better with HW RAID & that is how most of their testing/validation is done.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by

                                            @fateknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            @fateknollogee Hardware RAID is recommended because a lot of people lack the practice and skill with software RAID to appropriately maintain/troubleshoot/fix software raid.

                                            Plus you often get features like Blind swap.

                                            Nope...
                                            The folks at RH say, currently, performance is better with HW RAID & that is how most of their testing/validation is done.

                                            That's odd, but okay. I would generally think they make the recommendation because they know there is a huge lack of understanding on how software raid needs to be managed.

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