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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      NodeBB is another platform that is woefully behind on CentOS.

      And basically every database. And in the NoSQL space, the lack of updates can mean some significant loss of functionality.

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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite @dyasny
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        @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

        @black3dynamite said in Testing oVirt...:

        Because of Fedora release schedule, I don't have to rely to much on using additional repos for stuff like php, databases, etc.

        Well, if you need the latest bleeding edge releases, of course an EL distro isn't for you. Why use Fedora though, when you can use something more lightweight, like Alpine, in a container?

        I think Fedora rawhide has bleeding edge. Do also call the applications bleeding edge too?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Just saw this and totally reminded me of containers (which we've had for decades) and the ebb and flow of wanting things containerized, then merged, then containerized again...

          https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sandboxing_cycle.png

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            And then this one, apropos stuff from XKCD. "All services are microservices if you ignore most of their features."

            https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/containers.png

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @FATeknollogee
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              @FATeknollogee said in Testing oVirt...:

              Also waiting for this beta to drop: https://www.trilio.io/triliovault/

              Update: The Trilio saga....:face_with_open_mouth_cold_sweat:

              I followed up with Trilio.
              A lot of promises/dates were made (by Trilio) as to when a beta would be made available for testing.
              Needless to say, they never came through.
              Finally in Dec 2018, they said we are ready for the demo, we will show you a working product.
              The day came, Trilio said, sorry it's too close to Xmas, we will postpone the demo's till 2019.
              In 2019, I continued to follow up & finally they set a date for another demo - Jan 29.
              On Jan. 29, we get on the Webex, they said, sorry the demo just broke 10 mins prior to our call, so no demo.
              They show me some screenshots & their OpenStack version & again promise to get me beta software in a few days.
              I continue to follow up (via email)

              Yesterday (Feb 6), I get an email from Thomas Lahive GM; Sales and Alliance Partners....(copied & pasted below):
              "We started RHV betas and decided to prioritize current Trilio customers (those that purchased Triliovault for Openstack). 
              If you would like to be part of the beta now then We can sign you up as a certified Trilio reseller which has a $7,500 Starter Fee. The $7,500 will be credited against your first customer order that is at least $7,500 so it will eventually cost you nothing. Many of our partners can apply the fee against revenue so it's a great tax incentive, but you can confirm with your finance department.  
              Please Lmk how you would like to proceed."

              Please remember, I have never seen a working demo of this product, never.

              Is this typical behavior of RH partners?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                @FATeknollogee partners are all very separate. The actions of one really do not reflect on others.

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                  dyasny @FATeknollogee
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                  @FATeknollogee these guys sound really bad. I mean I can understand business decisions, they might not be seeing much demand for RHV, compared to Openstack, so they shift resources away, but feeding a customer promises is not good practice.

                  Check out Storware instead, they are very much oriented towards oVirt and RHV

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                  • matteo nunziatiM
                    matteo nunziati
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                    A bit OT but I've tried to find the suse competitor of RHV and I've not found it... Is there anything from suse?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                      @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                      A bit OT but I've tried to find the suse competitor of RHV and I've not found it... Is there anything from suse?

                      Probably but I've not used them for that in a long time. Would be interesting to know.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee
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                        @dyasny What are you doing w drovirt?

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                          dyasny @matteo nunziati
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                          @matteo-nunziati frankly, I'm surprised SuSE still exists 🙂

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                            dyasny @FATeknollogee
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                            @FATeknollogee nothing yet, been meaning to contribute some code, but I've been extremely busy with my daytime job lately

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                            • matteo nunziatiM
                              matteo nunziati @dyasny
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                              @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

                              @matteo-nunziati frankly, I'm surprised SuSE still exists 🙂

                              They where quite strong in Europe a few years ago. But the company has been sold so many times...

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                              • Reid CooperR
                                Reid Cooper @matteo nunziati
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                                @matteo-nunziati said in Testing oVirt...:

                                @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

                                @matteo-nunziati frankly, I'm surprised SuSE still exists 🙂

                                They where quite strong in Europe a few years ago. But the company has been sold so many times...

                                That is a sure way to kill a product. Everyone starts to feel uncertain and then people give up while waiting for the dust to settle and the more that people wait, the more that the dust doesn't settle and soon everyone just gives up on it.

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                                  dyasny @matteo nunziati
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                                  @matteo-nunziati Novell used to be bigger than Microsoft, I was a huge fan of NetWare back in the day. But SuSE is not Novell, and they have been scrapping around for some final dregs of their former glory to capitalize on. Obviously, that cannot work for too long.

                                  They kept the lights on in Europe because as a German company they could capitalize on a bit of customer loyalty there, but again, it's meaningless when you don't have a product to sell, and your competition does.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                                    @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

                                    Novell used to be bigger than Microsoft

                                    That's been a very long time 🙂 1992 probably. Pre-NT era.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                                      @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

                                      But SuSE is not Novell, and they have been scrapping around for some final dregs of their former glory to capitalize on. Obviously, that cannot work for too long.

                                      It's sad because they were so great in the early 2000s.

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                                        dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

                                        Novell used to be bigger than Microsoft

                                        That's been a very long time 🙂 1992 probably. Pre-NT era.

                                        NT is what killed it. But in the mid-90s I had netware 3 based clusters serving multi-site locations with frame-relay links, running IPX/SPX and diskless clients. Good times

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                                          @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

                                          NT is what killed it.

                                          Yeah, Netware on DR-DOS was very.... aged by that point.

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                                            dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            @dyasny said in Testing oVirt...:

                                            NT is what killed it.

                                            Yeah, Netware on DR-DOS was very.... aged by that point.

                                            Why DRDOS? NWDOS-7 was great, it could even do multithreading and networking

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