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    • jmooreJ
      jmoore @DustinB3403
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      @dustinb3403 I agree with you totally. I asked what pbx their software is based on and she said Linux centos......

      So you can see why I'm suspicious here. I also asked what brand phones they use and they are Digium branded and won't work with other sip phones. Sorry but I highly doubtful that as well.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
        last edited by JaredBusch

        SwitchVox has nothing to do with FreePBX.

        The company that sponsors Asterisk itself is Digium.

        Digium's commercial product is SwitchVox.

        I have not looked at their product in a few years. I have no idea on its quality.

        But because it is pure Asterisk, it works with everything that used standard SIP protocols.

        Edit: tag the thread.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @jmoore
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          @jmoore said in Phone system:

          I also asked what brand phones they use and they are Digium branded and won't work with other sip phones. Sorry but I highly doubtful that as well.

          Actually this one is very logical. Supporting a bazillion phone models is hard. This is why the old open source Endpoint Manager application for FreePBX died.

          Also, you were likely talking to sales. WTF else would you expect?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            Right on their website it says it works with anything.
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            • jmooreJ
              jmoore
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              I don't think my school wants to host their pbx software. So for around 300 users who is generally the top provider these days?

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                Francesco Provino @jmoore
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                @jmoore especially for 300 users, you’ll better go with hosted PBX. Any internal call will use no WAN bandwidth, simple provisioning, much less bandwidth required anyway, lower costs.

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                • bigbearB
                  bigbear @jmoore
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                  @jmoore said in Phone system:

                  I don't think my school wants to host their pbx software. So for around 300 users who is generally the top provider these days?

                  There is nothing bad about loading up a freepbx instance on a premise virtual server in your situation. Could still just as easily work from the cloud as @EddieJennings has done.

                  Switchvox was pretty amazing 10 years ago, way ahead of its time. It looked like Google made a fancy new phone system. Doesnt relate to FreePBX though, they have their own platform and its pretty costly to license and most of the features and benefits are for sales organizations.

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                  • jmooreJ
                    jmoore @bigbear
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                    @bigbear Yeah I was thinking it would probably save a lot of money for us to not use a hosted solution. The phone lady says we pay around 20k a year for our legacy cisco system. Even a cloud setup like Eddie does should be doable for us.

                    Thanks for the info about SwitchVox. Someone else told me that their demo doesnt usually reflect what they are selling. As in, you have to buy a lot more to get what the demo shows. So who knows. I was asked to help again as they did not make a decision last time either.

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                    • bigbearB
                      bigbear @jmoore
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                      @jmoore said in Phone system:

                      @bigbear Yeah I was thinking it would probably save a lot of money for us to not use a hosted solution. The phone lady says we pay around 20k a year for our legacy cisco system. Even a cloud setup like Eddie does should be doable for us.

                      Thanks for the info about SwitchVox. Someone else told me that their demo doesnt usually reflect what they are selling. As in, you have to buy a lot more to get what the demo shows. So who knows. I was asked to help again as they did not make a decision last time either.

                      I would expect $4,000 price tag for a small business with 10 people, plus the phones... so not sure how they would approach a school system but certainly would be a waste of money.

                      And I agree a paid hosted solution for a school system would likely be a waste of money mostly because of the per-extension pricing.

                      FreePBX is a PITA to update IMO, I would get a guy like @JaredBusch on retainer to handle it monthly whether on premise or in the cloud. Even in the cloud I bet a school would have very little traffic. You would be in control but its handy to have someone who can jump in with a quick fix where you might spend days trying to figure something out.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                        @jmoore said in Phone system:

                        Anyone familiar with the Switchvox company and their experience with them? How do they compare with Ring Central or
                        VoIP.ms?

                        Well RingCentral and voip.ms are very different. One is a hosted per user phones, the other is a trunk provider. At least as their focus. Rather different companies. Switchvox is a third kind of company, they make PBXs. So three totally different animals.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                          @jmoore said in Phone system:

                          @dustinb3403 ok thanks, that makes sense. I asked the person doing the demo and she did not know about the software. I'll give my recommendation to host since that will be a little cheaper. My school is still going around with this /sigh. Thanks for your input Dustin

                          If you need a local area supplier.... 😉

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            I agree with others here - Hire JB's company to set this up and manage it for you.

                            It can be on prem or cloud based.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Phone system:

                              @jmoore said in Phone system:

                              @dustinb3403 ok thanks, that makes sense. I asked the person doing the demo and she did not know about the software. I'll give my recommendation to host since that will be a little cheaper. My school is still going around with this /sigh. Thanks for your input Dustin

                              If you need a local area supplier.... 😉

                              Scott - who's doing your phone (VOIP like FreePBX) support these days?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                @jmoore you can get hosted service not paid per line also.

                                Really, there are a ton of options. You need to have consultant knowledgeable in telephony to help you, or you need to learn telephony yourself. Which ever is more effective for you.

                                You have these rough choices

                                Hosted service by line
                                Hosted service by usage
                                Hosted PBX - managed or self ran
                                Local PBX - managed or self ran

                                There are more details, but that is the high level view.

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                                • jmooreJ
                                  jmoore @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @dashrender Yeah I keep making suggestions. I think we would be in a lot better shape financially and feature wise if we used one of you all. I'm not sure where the hold up is with our phone lady and her boss. Hopefully we will get somewhere soon on this.

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                                  • jmooreJ
                                    jmoore @JaredBusch
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                                    @jaredbusch Thanks Jared. I am in process of learning telephony myself because I never want to quit learning. However its not my position so I am just asked for suggestions by my management. I have suggested your company as well as Scott's so they would have options. I don't know if the lady in charge contacted you all or what the results were. I am certainly not an expert as I have only done a couple small jobs, that is why I keep telling her to contact one of you all.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in Phone system:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Phone system:

                                      @jmoore said in Phone system:

                                      @dustinb3403 ok thanks, that makes sense. I asked the person doing the demo and she did not know about the software. I'll give my recommendation to host since that will be a little cheaper. My school is still going around with this /sigh. Thanks for your input Dustin

                                      If you need a local area supplier.... 😉

                                      Scott - who's doing your phone (VOIP like FreePBX) support these days?

                                      What do you mean, we are. We are a phone vendor.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @jmoore
                                        last edited by

                                        @jmoore said in Phone system:

                                        @dashrender Yeah I keep making suggestions. I think we would be in a lot better shape financially and feature wise if we used one of you all. I'm not sure where the hold up is with our phone lady and her boss. Hopefully we will get somewhere soon on this.

                                        Need me to drive down there? I could be there this afternoon 🙂

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                                        • jmooreJ
                                          jmoore @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller Let me find out schedules. We are watching a demo now from Consolidated Communications. Wendie had several vendors lined up so not sure what else is going on today.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                            @jmoore said in Phone system:

                                            @scottalanmiller Let me find out schedules. We are watching a demo now from Consolidated Communications. Wendie had several vendors lined up so not sure what else is going on today.

                                            Okay, today is possible but I'd need warning as it is a bit of a drive. Tomorrow is pretty free and I can bring @pchiodo too.

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