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    • RomoR
      Romo @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch I am so used to creating my bridges manually I keep forgetting macvtap creates them for you.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1
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        I had to do something a little different as I rent a server that I'll never have physical access to. So this is on an Ubuntu Server base (that always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, sorry.)

        eth0 is all I had to work with:
        0_1521783276353_193e9210-7cea-4b69-a884-ee50c022c033-image.png

        So I also made a virtual interface:
        0_1521783336979_8595e2f4-350f-407d-8774-cd6a4663e75c-image.png

        Virtual Interface that is the public facing side:
        0_1521783396102_6cbf70be-c476-4f7b-b7ad-d325027c733f-image.png

        Finally, the private side:
        0_1521783452469_1cc17ccd-d705-4ca2-ba14-839d51fdb70b-image.png

        Now, if you ask me (you didn't, I'll tell you anyway), this way of configuring things kinda sucks. I'm limited to 100mb/s throughput by something along the line that I haven't figured out yet.... I've got stories about these already, I don't need more!

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        • EddieJenningsE
          EddieJennings @JaredBusch
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          @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

          I want to make sure my understanding of your suggestion is correct.

          The FirewallVM will have one NIC connected to eth0 via macvtap, which would be assigned 100.100.100.2/30. The FirewallVM will have a second NIC attached to what you called the priv0 virtual network, which serves as the interface to the rest of the VMs in the LAN. For managing the host itself, I'll have another VM attached to the default virtual network.

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          • EddieJenningsE
            EddieJennings
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            I'm thinking through this topology a bit further:

            1. Eth0 on host passes traffic via macvtap to FirewallVM (100.100.100.2/30).
            2. Isolated network connects FirewallVM to the rest of the guest VM.
            3. Isolated network connects one of the guest VMs to the host VM.

            To manage my host over the Internet, I'd have a NAT rule that would direct SSH traffic to VM in item three. Once connected to that VM, then I'd SSH from there to my host -- basically making that guest VM jump box.

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @EddieJennings
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              @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

              I'm thinking through this topology a bit further:

              1. Eth0 on host passes traffic via macvtap to FirewallVM (100.100.100.2/30).
              2. Isolated network connects FirewallVM to the rest of the guest VM.
              3. Isolated network connects one of the guest VMs to the host VM.

              To manage my host over the Internet, I'd have a NAT rule that would direct SSH traffic to VM in item three. Once connected to that VM, then I'd SSH from there to my host -- basically making that guest VM jump box.

              VyOS has ssh built in.... just saying.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                I'm thinking through this topology a bit further:

                1. Eth0 on host passes traffic via macvtap to FirewallVM (100.100.100.2/30).
                2. Isolated network connects FirewallVM to the rest of the guest VM.
                3. Isolated network connects one of the guest VMs to the host VM.

                To manage my host over the Internet, I'd have a NAT rule that would direct SSH traffic to VM in item three. Once connected to that VM, then I'd SSH from there to my host -- basically making that guest VM jump box.

                VyOS has ssh built in.... just saying.

                Umm WTF? Open SSH to the world? On your router? Fuck that.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @EddieJennings
                  last edited by JaredBusch

                  @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                  To manage my host over the Internet, I'd have a NAT rule that would direct SSH traffic to VM in item three.

                  Never.

                  Use ZeroTier on your host. In the instance that it fails, use the colo's KVM to fix it.

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                  • EddieJenningsE
                    EddieJennings @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                    @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                    To manage my host over the Internet, I'd have a NAT rule that would direct SSH traffic to VM in item three.

                    Never.

                    Use ZeroTier on your host. In the instance that it fails, use the colo's KVM to fix it.

                    I’ve heard of ZeroTier. Time to learn something about it.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @EddieJennings
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                      @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                      @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                      @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                      To manage my host over the Internet, I'd have a NAT rule that would direct SSH traffic to VM in item three.

                      Never.

                      Use ZeroTier on your host. In the instance that it fails, use the colo's KVM to fix it.

                      I’ve heard of ZeroTier. Time to learn something about it.

                      Here you go.
                      https://www.zerotier.com/

                      https://mangolassi.it/topic/16853/installing-zerotier-on-fedora

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                        @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                        @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                        @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                        To manage my host over the Internet, I'd have a NAT rule that would direct SSH traffic to VM in item three.

                        Never.

                        Use ZeroTier on your host. In the instance that it fails, use the colo's KVM to fix it.

                        I’ve heard of ZeroTier. Time to learn something about it.

                        Very good product.

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                        • AdamFA
                          AdamF @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                          @travisdh1 said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                          @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                          I'm thinking through this topology a bit further:

                          1. Eth0 on host passes traffic via macvtap to FirewallVM (100.100.100.2/30).
                          2. Isolated network connects FirewallVM to the rest of the guest VM.
                          3. Isolated network connects one of the guest VMs to the host VM.

                          To manage my host over the Internet, I'd have a NAT rule that would direct SSH traffic to VM in item three. Once connected to that VM, then I'd SSH from there to my host -- basically making that guest VM jump box.

                          VyOS has ssh built in.... just saying.

                          Umm WTF? Open SSH to the world? On your router? Fuck that.

                          Your direct, to the point responses, often have me LOLing.

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings
                            last edited by EddieJennings

                            Here's an updated diagram.
                            0_1522199669938_colonetwork2.png

                            I'm wondering about how to do updates on the KVM host. Since there will be only one NIC with an connection to the colo's network, and that NIC is attached to the FirewallVM, it seems that the KVM host will have to have a way to send / receive traffic to / from the FirewallVM to have an Internet connection. Perhaps one alternative would be to setup a VM that acts like a repository for the updates I'd get through dnf and the KVM host would talk to that VM to get its software updates.

                            The other thing I'm thinking about is how I'm going to use Virt-Manager with my KVM host. Methinks this might be where ZeroTier would come in. I could connect to the "VM for managing the host" which would have Virt-Manager installed.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @EddieJennings
                              last edited by

                              @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                              Here's an updated diagram.
                              0_1522199669938_colonetwork2.png

                              I'm wondering about how to do updates on the KVM host. Since there will be only one NIC with an connection to the colo's network, and that NIC is attached to the FirewallVM, it seems that the KVM host will have to have a way to send / receive traffic to / from the FirewallVM to have an Internet connection. Perhaps one alternative would be to setup a VM that acts like a repository for the updates I'd get through dnf and the KVM host would talk to that VM to get its software updates.

                              The other thing I'm thinking about is how I'm going to use Virt-Manager with my KVM host. Methinks this might be where ZeroTier would come in. I could connect to the "VM for managing the host" which would have Virt-Manager installed.

                              Just add a NIC on you LAN network. Keep it normally disabled. Enable and run updates.

                              Or just not be super paranoid and just have it on the LAN always.

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                              • EddieJenningsE
                                EddieJennings @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                Or just not be super paranoid and just have it on the LAN always.

                                Ha! 😄

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @EddieJennings
                                  last edited by

                                  @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                  @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                  Or just not be super paranoid and just have it on the LAN always.

                                  Ha! 😄

                                  It is no different in that way than one in your office.

                                  In fact you will need a way to the internet for ZeroTier to come online.

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                                  • S
                                    StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    What are the specs of the server?

                                    Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                                    32 GB RAM
                                    Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

                                    Could be worth calling xByte and getting something a little beefier.

                                    I'll give it some thought. I need to think through how I intend to use it beyond just building and destroying VMs just to tinker. Might start a "spec my server" thread. 😄

                                    Your CPU is fine, but 64GB of RAM might be worthwhile.

                                    That CPU dates back to when I began my IT career. I'm fairly certain Intel hasn't released Meltdown/Spectre Microcode patches for it.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @StorageNinja
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                                      @storageninja said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      What are the specs of the server?

                                      Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                                      32 GB RAM
                                      Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

                                      Could be worth calling xByte and getting something a little beefier.

                                      I'll give it some thought. I need to think through how I intend to use it beyond just building and destroying VMs just to tinker. Might start a "spec my server" thread. 😄

                                      Your CPU is fine, but 64GB of RAM might be worthwhile.

                                      That CPU dates back to when I began my IT career. I'm fairly certain Intel hasn't released Meltdown/Spectre Microcode patches for it.

                                      Dell says a BIOS update for that stuff is in progress, other x10's have been patched:

                                      http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln308588/microprocessor-side-channel-vulnerabilities-cve-2017-5715-cve-2017-5753-cve-2017-5754-impact-on-dell-emc-products-dell-enterprise-servers-storage-and-networking-?lang=en

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings
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                                        Experimented with this tonight, so I figured share what I did. I was curious to see if I could access the iDRAC web interface without exposing iDRAC to the Internet.

                                        The solution I used seemed simple enough. I created another NIC in a VM, and set it to be bridged to the 2nd NIC on the host via macvtap. I gave the NIC a static IP. On the host, I connected the iDRAC port to the 2nd NIC using a crossover cable, and added an appropriate static IP in the DRAC settings. I connected to my VM via ScreenConnect (which for now is how I'll be connecting remotely to my management VM), and was able to browse to the iDRAC web page.

                                        I don't plan on doing this when I ship my server off, but I was curious to see if I could do it and make it work.

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                                        • black3dynamiteB
                                          black3dynamite @EddieJennings
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                                          @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                          Experimented with this tonight, so I figured share what I did. I was curious to see if I could access the iDRAC web interface without exposing iDRAC to the Internet.

                                          The solution I used seemed simple enough. I created another NIC in a VM, and set it to be bridged to the 2nd NIC on the host via macvtap. I gave the NIC a static IP. On the host, I connected the iDRAC port to the 2nd NIC using a crossover cable, and added an appropriate static IP in the DRAC settings. I connected to my VM via ScreenConnect (which for now is how I'll be connecting remotely to my management VM), and was able to browse to the iDRAC web page.

                                          I don't plan on doing this when I ship my server off, but I was curious to see if I could do it and make it work.

                                          What about setting up ZeroTier bridge VM?

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                                          • EddieJenningsE
                                            EddieJennings @black3dynamite
                                            last edited by

                                            @black3dynamite said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            Experimented with this tonight, so I figured share what I did. I was curious to see if I could access the iDRAC web interface without exposing iDRAC to the Internet.

                                            The solution I used seemed simple enough. I created another NIC in a VM, and set it to be bridged to the 2nd NIC on the host via macvtap. I gave the NIC a static IP. On the host, I connected the iDRAC port to the 2nd NIC using a crossover cable, and added an appropriate static IP in the DRAC settings. I connected to my VM via ScreenConnect (which for now is how I'll be connecting remotely to my management VM), and was able to browse to the iDRAC web page.

                                            I don't plan on doing this when I ship my server off, but I was curious to see if I could do it and make it work.

                                            What about setting up ZeroTier bridge VM?

                                            ZeroTier is my next thing to try. I wanted to do my little iDrac experiment, and I had screenconnect handy. Connecting to my management VM via ZeroTier is probably the best way to go.

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