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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @EddieJennings
      last edited by Obsolesce

      @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

      @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

      What are the specs of the server?

      Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
      32 GB RAM
      Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

      Seems like you'd be better off buying a dedicated server rather than providing your own to Colo. You get better specs, better performance, more bandwidth, SSDs, possibly more IPs, etc... for less than what you pay with Colo.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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        @tim_g said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

        @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

        @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

        What are the specs of the server?

        Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
        32 GB RAM
        Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

        Seems like you'd be better off buying a dedicated server rather than providing your own to Colo. You get better specs, better performance, more bandwidth, SSDs, possibly more IPs, etc... for less than what you pay with Colo.

        Colo is generally still cheaper, he just needs a newer server to put into it. It's essentially impossible to beat colo prices.

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        • RomoR
          Romo @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

          @bnrstnr said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

          https://www.colocationamerica.com/colocation/1u-colocation.htm
          No idea about other colo, but this one has "KVM over IP Included"
          https://i.imgur.com/G1lec0N.png

          Yup, that's who we use and we use that KVM from time to time. Very easy to use.

          Really usefull, but I still really hate the old java dependencies that make it not that easy to use until you know to what version you need to downgrade to.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Romo
            last edited by

            @romo said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

            @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

            @bnrstnr said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

            https://www.colocationamerica.com/colocation/1u-colocation.htm
            No idea about other colo, but this one has "KVM over IP Included"
            https://i.imgur.com/G1lec0N.png

            Yup, that's who we use and we use that KVM from time to time. Very easy to use.

            Really usefull, but I still really hate the old java dependencies that make it not that easy to use until you know to what version you need to downgrade to.

            haha, you've had to work with that KVM way more than I have 😉

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @Romo
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              @romo said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

              @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

              @bnrstnr said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

              https://www.colocationamerica.com/colocation/1u-colocation.htm
              No idea about other colo, but this one has "KVM over IP Included"
              https://i.imgur.com/G1lec0N.png

              Yup, that's who we use and we use that KVM from time to time. Very easy to use.

              Really usefull, but I still really hate the old java dependencies that make it not that easy to use until you know to what version you need to downgrade to.

              KVM has java dependencies? I don't remember seeing that when installing KVM anywhere. Even virt-manager is easy to install and use.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                last edited by

                @travisdh1 said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                @romo said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                @bnrstnr said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                https://www.colocationamerica.com/colocation/1u-colocation.htm
                No idea about other colo, but this one has "KVM over IP Included"
                https://i.imgur.com/G1lec0N.png

                Yup, that's who we use and we use that KVM from time to time. Very easy to use.

                Really usefull, but I still really hate the old java dependencies that make it not that easy to use until you know to what version you need to downgrade to.

                KVM has java dependencies? I don't remember seeing that when installing KVM anywhere. Even virt-manager is easy to install and use.

                Yes, many do. Colocation America's KVM units do for sure, sadly. Most iDRAC and ILO before the current generation needed Java. Something about the KVMoIP industry led people heaving to Java clients for a long time.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                  @travisdh1 said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                  @romo said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                  @bnrstnr said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                  https://www.colocationamerica.com/colocation/1u-colocation.htm
                  No idea about other colo, but this one has "KVM over IP Included"
                  https://i.imgur.com/G1lec0N.png

                  Yup, that's who we use and we use that KVM from time to time. Very easy to use.

                  Really usefull, but I still really hate the old java dependencies that make it not that easy to use until you know to what version you need to downgrade to.

                  KVM has java dependencies? I don't remember seeing that when installing KVM anywhere. Even virt-manager is easy to install and use.

                  Yes, many do. Colocation America's KVM units do for sure, sadly. Most iDRAC and ILO before the current generation needed Java. Something about the KVMoIP industry led people heaving to Java clients for a long time.

                  Ah, I was thinking virtualization, not keyboard-video-mouse, oops!

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                  • StrongBadS
                    StrongBad
                    last edited by

                    New KVM units are starting to move away from Java, but many datacenters still have older machines. It's not the kind of tech that you update very often.

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                      Alex Sage @EddieJennings
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                      @eddiejennings Do you need all that processor? What about replacing with a couple NUC's?

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings @Alex Sage
                        last edited by

                        @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                        @eddiejennings Do you need all that processor? What about replacing with a couple NUC's?

                        Probably not, but I likely need some RAM. When I get some time this evening, I'll take stock of what VMs I want to run and see if I do, in fact, need better hardware. Part of me wanting to put this server into colo is to get a public IP address to use, since I can't get that from my ISP. Granted I could probably use my dynamically assigned IP address with a dynamic DNS service, but then I'll probably run into issues with the residental ToS with my ISP about running web servers, etc. off my home internet connection.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                          last edited by

                          @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                          @eddiejennings Do you need all that processor? What about replacing with a couple NUC's?

                          NUCs are pretty hard to rack mount in a colo.

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                            Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller Agreed. I was suggesting that he keep the lab at his apartment.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                              last edited by

                              @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                              @scottalanmiller Agreed. I was suggesting that he keep the lab at his apartment.

                              OIC, I think that he is trying to get colocation experience as part of the deal, though.

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                              • EddieJenningsE
                                EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                @scottalanmiller Agreed. I was suggesting that he keep the lab at his apartment.

                                OIC, I think that he is trying to get colocation experience as part of the deal, though.

                                Yeah. If I wanted to keep it at home, NUCs are a good idea.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
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                                  I've been using them for a VPS for a while now and have been great so far.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    The price is not horrible. BUT....

                                    10Mb/s is ridiculous, that's not even good for a lab in most cases.
                                    What tier datacenter is it? Not likely a very good one.

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                                      bnrstnr @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by bnrstnr

                                      @tim_g 10/10Mbit is brutal... also, "unmetered" but 3 TB monthly transfer limit? I guess $29.99 is pretty cheap, but damn.

                                      Probably considered unmetered because it would take 32 days to transfer 3TB at 10Mb/s lol

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
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                                        I want to know what Unmetered means in this context.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                          The price is not horrible. BUT....

                                          10Mb/s is ridiculous, that's not even good for a lab in most cases.
                                          What tier datacenter is it? Not likely a very good one.

                                          I disagree that 10/10 is horrible for the price point. What are you doing in a colo (lab expecially), that you need more than 10/10?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            The price is not horrible. BUT....

                                            10Mb/s is ridiculous, that's not even good for a lab in most cases.
                                            What tier datacenter is it? Not likely a very good one.

                                            I disagree that 10/10 is horrible for the price point.

                                            It's just horrible. Price point not important. At some point, even for free, the speed is too slow to really consider it.

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