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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      10.202.1.16 is my Nginx Proxy.

      But if I shutdown Nextcloud the traffic dies.

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      • momurdaM
        momurda
        last edited by

        The User Management UI only shows last login, doesnt really let you know who is currently active.
        You could probably cat or tail your apache or nextcloud logs on the NC server to find out who it is.

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        • black3dynamiteB
          black3dynamite
          last edited by

          Any useful information from Nextcloud logs?
          https://domain.local/settings/admin/logging

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @black3dynamite
            last edited by JaredBusch

            @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

            Any useful information from Nextcloud logs?
            https://domain.local/settings/admin/logging

            Doesn't exist.. also.. fuck... I thought they were on NC 11

            0_1520009659868_75d12b0c-d484-42b8-9fc0-8545a0026a48-image.png

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @jaredbusch said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

              @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

              Any useful information from Nextcloud logs?
              https://domain.local/settings/admin/logging

              Doesn't exist.. also.. fuck... I thought they were on NC 11

              0_1520009659868_75d12b0c-d484-42b8-9fc0-8545a0026a48-image.png

              My bad, I assumed it was Nextcloud 13.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @black3dynamite
                last edited by

                @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                @jaredbusch said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                Any useful information from Nextcloud logs?
                https://domain.local/settings/admin/logging

                Doesn't exist.. also.. fuck... I thought they were on NC 11

                0_1520009659868_75d12b0c-d484-42b8-9fc0-8545a0026a48-image.png

                My bad, I assumed it was Nextcloud 13.

                I had no idea it was this old... Guess what I am doing this weekend.......

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                  @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                  Any useful information from Nextcloud logs?
                  https://domain.local/settings/admin/logging

                  Doesn't exist.. also.. fuck... I thought they were on NC 11

                  0_1520009659868_75d12b0c-d484-42b8-9fc0-8545a0026a48-image.png

                  Wow

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                  • black3dynamiteB
                    black3dynamite @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @jaredbusch said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                    @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                    @jaredbusch said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                    @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                    Any useful information from Nextcloud logs?
                    https://domain.local/settings/admin/logging

                    Doesn't exist.. also.. fuck... I thought they were on NC 11

                    0_1520009659868_75d12b0c-d484-42b8-9fc0-8545a0026a48-image.png

                    My bad, I assumed it was Nextcloud 13.

                    I had no idea it was this old... Guess what I am doing this weekend.......

                    Is your client using the latest version of Nextcloud Desktop client?

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                    • momurdaM
                      momurda
                      last edited by momurda

                      on my nc 12 server
                      cat /var/log/apache2/access.log
                      shows me all the web requests as well as username making them
                      0_1520010663714_1d3e49af-5e89-44e1-b15c-8e145e4bd0ab-image.png
                      edit: debian 9 NC server

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @momurda
                        last edited by

                        @momurda said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                        on my nc 12 server
                        cat /var/log/apache2/access.log
                        shows me all the web requests as well as username making them
                        0_1520010663714_1d3e49af-5e89-44e1-b15c-8e145e4bd0ab-image.png

                        And for those who are using Fedora, the location is /var/log/httpd/access_log .

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @black3dynamite
                          last edited by

                          @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                          @jaredbusch said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                          @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                          @jaredbusch said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                          @black3dynamite said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                          Any useful information from Nextcloud logs?
                          https://domain.local/settings/admin/logging

                          Doesn't exist.. also.. fuck... I thought they were on NC 11

                          0_1520009659868_75d12b0c-d484-42b8-9fc0-8545a0026a48-image.png

                          My bad, I assumed it was Nextcloud 13.

                          I had no idea it was this old... Guess what I am doing this weekend.......

                          Is your client using the latest version of Nextcloud Desktop client?

                          Mostly latest ownCloud client. Some few are on the Nextcloud client.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @momurda
                            last edited by

                            @momurda said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                            on my nc 12 server
                            cat /var/log/apache2/access.log
                            shows me all the web requests as well as username making them
                            0_1520010663714_1d3e49af-5e89-44e1-b15c-8e145e4bd0ab-image.png
                            edit: debian 9 NC server

                            Have you ever seriously tried to monitor the log file for a site with ~80 users all using the sync client? Chatty is an understatement.

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                            • momurdaM
                              momurda
                              last edited by

                              Yea i know, but at night when you posted the log probably was less active. Someone might want to make a NC feature request if there isnt one already.

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                              • black3dynamiteB
                                black3dynamite @momurda
                                last edited by

                                @momurda said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                                Yea i know, but at night when you posted the log probably was less active. Someone might want to make an NC feature request if there isnt one already.

                                How can one tell if the user is accessing from desktop/mobile app, WebDAV or web browser in the access logs?

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                                • momurdaM
                                  momurda @black3dynamite
                                  last edited by momurda

                                  @black3dynamite I am working on that now
                                  I think something like
                                  grep ncusername /var/log/apache2/access.log | grep PUT
                                  ^This one shows up when using NC sync client and editing/saving a file
                                  grep ncusername /var/log/apache2/access.log | grep DELETE
                                  ^This one shows up when deleting things from Windows Explorer and then the sync client sync the change to NC.

                                  edit, these arent quite right yet but a good starting point i think.
                                  You dont know the username in this case so
                                  grep dav /var/log/apache2/access.log | grep PUT
                                  This will return all log entries of all users who have made changes with the sync client. It makes a log entries every file change, so the result list will be quite long.
                                  You would need to glance at the results and look at the users that shows up the most i think. After hours this would lead you to the culprit.

                                  edit: PUT is the function used when saving a changed/edited file.
                                  grep dav /var/log/apache2/access.log | grep PUT
                                  This gives you a list of user and files edited in current access.log using the NC sync client. With this you can change your next query to use a specific username that shows up a lot, like my first examples.

                                  If you want to find the # of edited files in access log add | wc -l to the end which will give the number of files changed. change the username based on results from previous query. When you see a huge number returned that would probably be the person.
                                  grep ncusername /var/log/apache2/access.log | grep PUT | wc -l

                                  But all this seems like much work(and still not quite right) compared to getting NC to put this info in the Web UI.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    So, upgrading....

                                    Nextcloud (and ownCloud before) always say to upgrade without skiping anything, but never to skip a major version.

                                    As I am on the last version of 9 with this instance, Should I upgrade to 10.0.1 or straight to 10.0.6?
                                    https://nextcloud.com/changelog/#latest10

                                    And then subsequently? Point releases and then majors?
                                    Or should I just do the latest 10, latest, 11, latest 12, and finally current 13?

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                                      Alex Sage @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @jaredbusch build a new VM, and move the config and data over

                                      https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/12/admin_manual/maintenance/migrating.html

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Alex Sage
                                        last edited by

                                        @aaronstuder said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                                        @jaredbusch build a new VM, and move the config and data over

                                        https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/12/admin_manual/maintenance/migrating.html

                                        Was what I posted hard to understand?

                                        You obviously have no idea how many sync issues that type of thing causes.

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                                        • dbeatoD
                                          dbeato @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in How can I check what Nextcloud user is active:

                                          So, upgrading....

                                          Nextcloud (and ownCloud before) always say to upgrade without skiping anything, but never to skip a major version.

                                          As I am on the last version of 9 with this instance, Should I upgrade to 10.0.1 or straight to 10.0.6?
                                          https://nextcloud.com/changelog/#latest10

                                          And then subsequently? Point releases and then majors?
                                          Or should I just do the latest 10, latest, 11, latest 12, and finally current 13?

                                          I would do point releases and then majors as outlined here:

                                          https://nextcloud.com/migration

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            Well looking closer, there are no minor Nextcloud releases. Only bug fix releases..

                                            So that means upgrade to 10.0.x, then 11.0.x, then 12.0.x, and finally 13.0.x.

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