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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      The coalesce job in my experience usually doesn't take too long, but it's purely based on your host Sr performance.

      And while you can kick it off manually once offline, you would still have no status.

      Do you have XO? I believe it'll show you unhealthy SRs.

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      • anthonyhA
        anthonyh @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

        The coalesce job in my experience usually doesn't take too long, but it's purely based on your host Sr performance.

        And while you can kick it off manually once offline, you would still have no status.

        Do you have XO? I believe it'll show you unhealthy SRs.

        I do not have XenOrchestra. I should set that up...

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        • anthonyhA
          anthonyh
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          Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

          I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

          If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @anthonyh
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            @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

            @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

            The coalesce job in my experience usually doesn't take too long, but it's purely based on your host Sr performance.

            And while you can kick it off manually once offline, you would still have no status.

            Do you have XO? I believe it'll show you unhealthy SRs.

            I do not have XenOrchestra. I should set that up...

            It literally takes longer to update the guest.

            https://mangolassi.it/topic/12809/xen-orchestra-community-edition-installing-with-yarn

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @anthonyh
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              @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

              Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

              I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

              If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

              You would have a backup, but why go through this process? Why not let the system run a coalesce? Is this a production system or your lab?

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              • momurdaM
                momurda @anthonyh
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                @anthonyh I have had a few disk migrations fail over the last 2 years. Most of the time you just end up with a broken vdi on the destination and the source is fine without issue.
                But i have had to restart guest after disk migration failure before.
                @DustinB3403 It is his exchange server.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @momurda
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                  @momurda said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                  @anthonyh I have had a few disk migrations fail over the last 2 years. Most of the time you just end up with a broken vdi on the destination and the source is fine without issue.
                  But i have had to restart guest after disk migration failure before.
                  @DustinB3403 It is his exchange server.

                  So even more reason to let the coalesce process complete.

                  Disable any backup jobs for a bit (snapshots cause this issue).

                  https://techblog.jeppson.org/2015/02/reclaim-lost-space-xenserver-6-5/

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                  • anthonyhA
                    anthonyh @momurda
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                    @momurda said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                    @anthonyh I have had a few disk migrations fail over the last 2 years. Most of the time you just end up with a broken vdi on the destination and the source is fine without issue.
                    But i have had to restart guest after disk migration failure before.

                    I'm OK with that. I will have to think about this...

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                    • anthonyhA
                      anthonyh @DustinB3403
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                      @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                      @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                      Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

                      I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

                      If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

                      You would have a backup, but why go through this process? Why not let the system run a coalesce? Is this a production system or your lab?

                      Production system. The problem is that there isn't enough space on the SR to perform a coalesce. I'm trying to avoid bringing Zimbra down if at all possible. Might not be possible, but I can at least try. 😄

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @anthonyh
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                        @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                        @momurda said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                        @anthonyh I have had a few disk migrations fail over the last 2 years. Most of the time you just end up with a broken vdi on the destination and the source is fine without issue.
                        But i have had to restart guest after disk migration failure before.

                        I'm OK with that. I will have to think about this...

                        This can mean unplanned downtime. Which for an exchange system can be costly. Granted the downtime is usually nominal but is worth considering allowing the system to clean up this issue at the nearest possible planned down time.

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                        • anthonyhA
                          anthonyh @DustinB3403
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                          @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                          @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                          @momurda said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                          @anthonyh I have had a few disk migrations fail over the last 2 years. Most of the time you just end up with a broken vdi on the destination and the source is fine without issue.
                          But i have had to restart guest after disk migration failure before.

                          I'm OK with that. I will have to think about this...

                          This can mean unplanned downtime. Which for an exchange system can be costly. Granted the downtime is usually nominal but is worth considering allowing the system to clean up this issue at the nearest possible planned down time.

                          Yes, it's a gamble for sure.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @anthonyh
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                            @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                            @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                            @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                            Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

                            I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

                            If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

                            You would have a backup, but why go through this process? Why not let the system run a coalesce? Is this a production system or your lab?

                            Production system. The problem is that there isn't enough space on the SR to perform a coalesce. I'm trying to avoid bringing Zimbra down if at all possible. Might not be possible, but I can at least try. 😄

                            The coalesce process is likely already running attempting to clean up an old snapshot. Performing a manual SR scan, should clean up this issue.

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                            • anthonyhA
                              anthonyh @DustinB3403
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                              @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                              @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                              @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                              @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                              Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

                              I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

                              If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

                              You would have a backup, but why go through this process? Why not let the system run a coalesce? Is this a production system or your lab?

                              Production system. The problem is that there isn't enough space on the SR to perform a coalesce. I'm trying to avoid bringing Zimbra down if at all possible. Might not be possible, but I can at least try. 😄

                              The coalesce process is likely already running attempting to clean up an old snapshot. Performing a manual SR scan, should clean up this issue.

                              Already done this several times. No dice.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @anthonyh
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                                @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

                                I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

                                If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

                                You would have a backup, but why go through this process? Why not let the system run a coalesce? Is this a production system or your lab?

                                Production system. The problem is that there isn't enough space on the SR to perform a coalesce. I'm trying to avoid bringing Zimbra down if at all possible. Might not be possible, but I can at least try. 😄

                                The coalesce process is likely already running attempting to clean up an old snapshot. Performing a manual SR scan, should clean up this issue.

                                Already done this several times. No dice.

                                I should probably just re-read the thread, but what type of backup are you running with this guest? You aren't using XO so I'm curious where/what is causing this issue.

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                                • anthonyhA
                                  anthonyh @DustinB3403
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                                  @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                  @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                  @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                  @anthonyh said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                  Last night I set up a new SR for Zimbra and live migrated the OS disk over to the new SR without any issues. Took ~5 minutes for the 20 GB VHD.

                                  I'd like to do the same for the 1 TB VHD, but it makes me nervous...

                                  If the process was to bomb mid-progress, what would happen? Is it easy to recover from?

                                  You would have a backup, but why go through this process? Why not let the system run a coalesce? Is this a production system or your lab?

                                  Production system. The problem is that there isn't enough space on the SR to perform a coalesce. I'm trying to avoid bringing Zimbra down if at all possible. Might not be possible, but I can at least try. 😄

                                  The coalesce process is likely already running attempting to clean up an old snapshot. Performing a manual SR scan, should clean up this issue.

                                  Already done this several times. No dice.

                                  I should probably just re-read the thread, but what type of backup are you running with this guest? You aren't using XO so I'm curious where/what is causing this issue.

                                  I am using Alike's "enhanced backup" model, which is snapshot based backups. I also take snapshots of the VM (all VMs, really) whenever I do any sort of maintenance, so I can't really point the blame at Alike. I don't know how long the orphaned snapshots have been around. The interesting thing is that except for Saturday night's run (when I got the alert from the pool that the coalesce failed due to not enough disk space), backups have been successful. Backups aren't performed on Sundays.

                                  I don't have the orphaned snapshots issue with any other VM that I'm aware of. SR usage everywhere else looks to be what is expected.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    What output do you get from XS cli when you run this?

                                    xapi-explore-sr

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                                    • anthonyhA
                                      anthonyh
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                                      @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                      What output do you get from XS cli when you run this?

                                      xapi-explore-sr

                                      Hm. I don't seem to have that command. I have the following:

                                      [root@vmhost10 ~]# xapi
                                      xapi                     xapi-autostart-vms       xapi-db-process          xapi-wait-init-complete  
                                      [root@vmhost10 ~]#
                                      
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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        Curious. . .

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          Doh. . .

                                          This is a feature of XO directly. . . ha yea nevermind.

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                                          • anthonyhA
                                            anthonyh @DustinB3403
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                                            @dustinb3403 said in XenServer 6.5 - Clean Up Storage Repository:

                                            Doh. . .

                                            This is a feature of XO directly. . . ha yea nevermind.

                                            Well, I guess that means I should set it up. 😄

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