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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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      @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

      @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

      @dashrender said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

      @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

      @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

      I don't understand why "HEY USERS, STOP WATCHING YOUTUBE ALL DAY!!!!" isn't the obvious solution here. Your coworker wants to use tech to solve a people issue. No video streaming = no more bandwidth issues.

      I'm using youtube as an example, I have no idea what they are watching or on what platform. I just know it's not hosted by them and they access it over the WAN

      His point was - when people complain (or logging servers send alerts about issues) you look at who and what is happening and tell those people to knock it off.

      I have been told it's for business purposes. It's a foster care non-profit so i have no idea how or why, but let's assume they are right for now

      Ouch. But since they are a non-profit, tell them to have fun calling up their ISP to ask for more bandwidth pro bono.

      They are paying you to work there, right? Don't fall for their "can I get that for free" BS.

      What would be better is getting a second line just for the voice.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
        last edited by

        @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

        @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

        @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

        @dashrender said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

        @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

        @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

        I don't understand why "HEY USERS, STOP WATCHING YOUTUBE ALL DAY!!!!" isn't the obvious solution here. Your coworker wants to use tech to solve a people issue. No video streaming = no more bandwidth issues.

        I'm using youtube as an example, I have no idea what they are watching or on what platform. I just know it's not hosted by them and they access it over the WAN

        His point was - when people complain (or logging servers send alerts about issues) you look at who and what is happening and tell those people to knock it off.

        I have been told it's for business purposes. It's a foster care non-profit so i have no idea how or why, but let's assume they are right for now

        Ouch. But since they are a non-profit, tell them to have fun calling up their ISP to ask for more bandwidth pro bono.

        They are paying you to work there, right? Don't fall for their "can I get that for free" BS.

        It's not me. My co-worker has a habit of doing things the wrong way and then telling me it's easier and that's why. Unfortunately the owners think everything he says is gospel.

        Um, duh. Because the owner is the one benefiting most from overselling systems and breaking things to generate more work. of course he likes his ideas.

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        • PenguinWranglerP
          PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

          @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

          @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

          @dashrender said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

          @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

          @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

          I don't understand why "HEY USERS, STOP WATCHING YOUTUBE ALL DAY!!!!" isn't the obvious solution here. Your coworker wants to use tech to solve a people issue. No video streaming = no more bandwidth issues.

          I'm using youtube as an example, I have no idea what they are watching or on what platform. I just know it's not hosted by them and they access it over the WAN

          His point was - when people complain (or logging servers send alerts about issues) you look at who and what is happening and tell those people to knock it off.

          I have been told it's for business purposes. It's a foster care non-profit so i have no idea how or why, but let's assume they are right for now

          Ouch. But since they are a non-profit, tell them to have fun calling up their ISP to ask for more bandwidth pro bono.

          They are paying you to work there, right? Don't fall for their "can I get that for free" BS.

          What would be better is getting a second line just for the voice.

          Voice takes so little that it doesn't cost that much usually. I would go this route.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @PenguinWrangler
            last edited by

            @penguinwrangler said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

            @scottalanmiller said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

            @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

            @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

            @dashrender said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

            @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

            @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

            I don't understand why "HEY USERS, STOP WATCHING YOUTUBE ALL DAY!!!!" isn't the obvious solution here. Your coworker wants to use tech to solve a people issue. No video streaming = no more bandwidth issues.

            I'm using youtube as an example, I have no idea what they are watching or on what platform. I just know it's not hosted by them and they access it over the WAN

            His point was - when people complain (or logging servers send alerts about issues) you look at who and what is happening and tell those people to knock it off.

            I have been told it's for business purposes. It's a foster care non-profit so i have no idea how or why, but let's assume they are right for now

            Ouch. But since they are a non-profit, tell them to have fun calling up their ISP to ask for more bandwidth pro bono.

            They are paying you to work there, right? Don't fall for their "can I get that for free" BS.

            What would be better is getting a second line just for the voice.

            Voice takes so little that it doesn't cost that much usually. I would go this route.

            A second business line will still have a minimal cost, that could be like $80/m

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            • PenguinWranglerP
              PenguinWrangler @Dashrender
              last edited by PenguinWrangler

              @dashrender said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

              @penguinwrangler said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

              @scottalanmiller said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

              @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

              @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

              @dashrender said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

              @wirestyle22 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

              @rojoloco said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

              I don't understand why "HEY USERS, STOP WATCHING YOUTUBE ALL DAY!!!!" isn't the obvious solution here. Your coworker wants to use tech to solve a people issue. No video streaming = no more bandwidth issues.

              I'm using youtube as an example, I have no idea what they are watching or on what platform. I just know it's not hosted by them and they access it over the WAN

              His point was - when people complain (or logging servers send alerts about issues) you look at who and what is happening and tell those people to knock it off.

              I have been told it's for business purposes. It's a foster care non-profit so i have no idea how or why, but let's assume they are right for now

              Ouch. But since they are a non-profit, tell them to have fun calling up their ISP to ask for more bandwidth pro bono.

              They are paying you to work there, right? Don't fall for their "can I get that for free" BS.

              What would be better is getting a second line just for the voice.

              Voice takes so little that it doesn't cost that much usually. I would go this route.

              A second business line will still have a minimal cost, that could be like $80/m

              I meant VOIP takes so little bandwidth. Sorry bad wording.

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              • zachary715Z
                zachary715
                last edited by

                Lol I'm always baffled at how seemingly straightforward threads can get you down a rabbit hole 66 posts later. Everything from "stop letting them have the internets" to get a new internet line for voice.

                Is this not a simple solution of implementing QoS for VoIP at the firewall/router and moving on? That's every solution I've ever heard preached by @scottalanmiller and @JaredBusch in regards to this issue. Then it doesn't matter if you have a 10Mbps connection or 1Gbps, it will never allow bandwidth usage to exceed what VoIP needs to ensure you always have a solid VoIP service. If it's not that simple, someone please straighten me out. I don't see why an extra internet line or VLANS are necessary.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @zachary715
                  last edited by

                  @zachary715 I stopped reading after a few posts because people that have no idea what they are talking about were posting.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @zachary715
                    last edited by

                    @zachary715 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

                    Is this not a simple solution of implementing QoS for VoIP at the firewall/router and moving on?

                    Unfortunately, no. QoS is outbound only, and the issue here is inbound. So QoS can't be used.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @zachary715
                      last edited by

                      @zachary715 said in Limiting Bandwidth (Help me name this thread):

                      I don't see why an extra internet line or VLANS are necessary.

                      Extra Internet line is the means of getting "QoS"-like features for inbound.

                      VLANs have nothing to do with the thing that they want to accomplish.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @wirestyle22

                        If you are simply trying to limit bandwidth on incoming traffic to the WAN port, then you put an outbound limiter on the LAN port because inbound traffic to the WAN is going outbound on the LAN.

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