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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

      Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

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      • thwrT
        thwr @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

        Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

        Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

        I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @thwr
          last edited by

          @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

          @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

          Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

          Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

          I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

          You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

          Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

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          • thwrT
            thwr @DustinB3403
            last edited by thwr

            @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

            @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

            @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

            Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

            Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

            I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

            You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

            Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

            Yeah, that's what I thought: Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @thwr
              last edited by

              @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

              @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

              @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

              @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

              Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

              Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

              I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

              You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

              Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

              Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

              Yes.

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              • thwrT
                thwr @DustinB3403
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                @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

                Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

                I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

                You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

                Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

                Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

                Yes.

                I think I need to do some calculations. Could be even cheaper than buying a dozen rugged switches.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @thwr
                  last edited by

                  @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                  @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                  @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                  Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

                  Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

                  I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

                  You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

                  Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

                  Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

                  Yes.

                  I think I need to do some calculations. Could be even cheaper than buying a dozen rugged switches.

                  Cable Jockies are cheap here in my part of the world.

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                  • thwrT
                    thwr @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                    @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                    @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                    @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                    @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                    @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                    @dustinb3403 said in Network in industrial environments:

                    Run fiber from your main to the end points or a network closet that is within range of Ethernet for the computers.

                    Putting up small networking closets throughout is a pain.

                    I'm afraid I need a few dozen ports down there

                    You'd run a single fiber line to a switch and patch panel, and have all of the endpoints connect to the new business class switch rather than this one on the wall.

                    Rather than having your main run broken into multiple ethernet lines that are then connected to this switch that is hung on the wall.

                    Run (fixed installation) cables from the different locations to a patch panel. Patch to a real switch. Run fibre back to core.

                    Yes.

                    I think I need to do some calculations. Could be even cheaper than buying a dozen rugged switches.

                    Cable Jockies are cheap here in my part of the world.

                    Same here. Costs you just a kidney or two.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @thwr
                      last edited by JaredBusch

                      @thwr You want this, or possibly a vented one with filters.
                      https://www.rackmountsolutions.net/hammond-en4dh162415lg/
                      0_1516305122375_329b9805-ea6c-4581-9af7-d00940ec2335-image.png

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                      • thwrT
                        thwr @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                        @thwr You want this.
                        https://www.rackmountsolutions.net/hammond-en4dh162415lg/
                        0_1516305122375_329b9805-ea6c-4581-9af7-d00940ec2335-image.png

                        Jup, what I thought

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @thwr
                          last edited by

                          @thwr Note my edit.. Possibly one with filters and a fan. more maintenance, but if temperature is an issue, it will be better.

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @JaredBusch
                            last edited by thwr

                            @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                            @thwr Note my edit.. Possibly one with filters and a fan. more maintenance, but if temperature is an issue, it will be better.

                            Definitely. We got all kind of possible dangers there. Everything on a very high safety level, even for German standards. But we're working with mineral oil and misc. fluids, there's wood and metal swarfs and so on.

                            So a filter is not even a question

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @thwr
                              last edited by

                              @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                              @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                              @thwr Note my edit.. Possibly one with filters and a fan. more maintenance, but if temperature is an issue, it will be better.

                              Definitely. We got all kind of possible dangers there. Everything on a very high safety level, even for German standards. But we're working with mineral oil and misc. fluids, there's wood and metal swarfs and so on.

                              So a filter is not even a question

                              oh yeah, I would go NEMA no fan and filter. if it over heats and melts, jsut replace.

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                @thwr Note my edit.. Possibly one with filters and a fan. more maintenance, but if temperature is an issue, it will be better.

                                Definitely. We got all kind of possible dangers there. Everything on a very high safety level, even for German standards. But we're working with mineral oil and misc. fluids, there's wood and metal swarfs and so on.

                                So a filter is not even a question

                                oh yeah, I would go NEMA no fan and filter. if it over heats and melts, jsut replace.

                                good point, thank you

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

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                                  • PenguinWranglerP
                                    PenguinWrangler
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                                    At a huge hog farm that I service. I used the Ubiquiti ToughSwitches. They stand up to the heat and the cold with no issues. I have them in hermetically sealed boxes. No air or water can get in, just the nature of the business, with all the ammonia from the poo and urine if left out the switches would corrode, and then they bring in water pressure jets to clean out the pig areas on a regular basis. I haven't had any fail in the three years they have been in.

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @JaredBusch
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                                      @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                      You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

                                      That's the idea. I don't have much need for PoE except for a few APs which will be powered with injectors.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @thwr
                                        last edited by

                                        @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                        @jaredbusch said in Network in industrial environments:

                                        You could put in low cost EdgeSwitcheLite (the non PoE version)

                                        That's the idea. I don't have much need for PoE except for a few APs which will be powered with injectors.

                                        Looks like the ES Lite is only in the 24 and 48 port variety..
                                        https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgeswitch-lite/

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                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr @PenguinWrangler
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                                          @penguinwrangler said in Network in industrial environments:

                                          At a huge hog farm that I service. I used the Ubiquiti ToughSwitches. They stand up to the heat and the cold with no issues. I have them in hermetically sealed boxes. No air or water can get in, just the nature of the business, with all the ammonia from the poo and urine if left out the switches would corrode, and then they bring in water pressure jets to clean out the pig areas on a regular basis. I haven't had any fail in the three years they have been in.

                                          Now that's what I would call a harsh environment 😉 Thank you, I've already had a quick look on them.

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                                          • PenguinWranglerP
                                            PenguinWrangler @thwr
                                            last edited by

                                            @thwr said in Network in industrial environments:

                                            @penguinwrangler said in Network in industrial environments:

                                            At a huge hog farm that I service. I used the Ubiquiti ToughSwitches. They stand up to the heat and the cold with no issues. I have them in hermetically sealed boxes. No air or water can get in, just the nature of the business, with all the ammonia from the poo and urine if left out the switches would corrode, and then they bring in water pressure jets to clean out the pig areas on a regular basis. I haven't had any fail in the three years they have been in.

                                            Now that's what I would call a harsh environment 😉 Thank you, I've already had a quick look on them.

                                            They will do POE as well.

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