Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media
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@jaredbusch said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@ezacal said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 when i say VHD i am referring to the Mountable VHD contained in the Windows system image folder created by windows, however the proper way to phrase it the end desired result is to take that windows image and apply it to a blank HDD, i just want to know if anyone has had success doing this without the windows repair disk and or if its even possible.
This isn't possible. You can create a golden image, and restore that without user data. Or you can backup the entire system with user data and restore it.
In any case you need imaging rights.
You need no imaging rights just to backup and restore a system. That is just a stupid thing to say.
He is not restoring to the same system and he wants to change what is on the image.
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@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@jaredbusch said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@ezacal said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 when i say VHD i am referring to the Mountable VHD contained in the Windows system image folder created by windows, however the proper way to phrase it the end desired result is to take that windows image and apply it to a blank HDD, i just want to know if anyone has had success doing this without the windows repair disk and or if its even possible.
This isn't possible. You can create a golden image, and restore that without user data. Or you can backup the entire system with user data and restore it.
In any case you need imaging rights.
You need no imaging rights just to backup and restore a system. That is just a stupid thing to say.
He is not restoring to the same system and he wants to change what is on the image.
He is swapping the drive, it most assuredly is the same system.
But that is not what I was responding to. I specifically quoted your stupid ass post stating that a backup and restore required imaging rights.
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@jaredbusch said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@jaredbusch said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@ezacal said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 when i say VHD i am referring to the Mountable VHD contained in the Windows system image folder created by windows, however the proper way to phrase it the end desired result is to take that windows image and apply it to a blank HDD, i just want to know if anyone has had success doing this without the windows repair disk and or if its even possible.
This isn't possible. You can create a golden image, and restore that without user data. Or you can backup the entire system with user data and restore it.
In any case you need imaging rights.
You need no imaging rights just to backup and restore a system. That is just a stupid thing to say.
He is not restoring to the same system and he wants to change what is on the image.
He is swapping the drive, it most assuredly is the same system.
But that is not what I was responding to. I specifically quoted your stupid ass post stating that a backup and restore required imaging rights.
You're being a dumbass Jared. Golden Image (custom) requires imaging rights. Or you can backup the entire system in restore it.
In any case (what he has explained he wants to do) will require imaging rights. FFS.
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@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@jaredbusch said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@jaredbusch said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@ezacal said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 when i say VHD i am referring to the Mountable VHD contained in the Windows system image folder created by windows, however the proper way to phrase it the end desired result is to take that windows image and apply it to a blank HDD, i just want to know if anyone has had success doing this without the windows repair disk and or if its even possible.
This isn't possible. You can create a golden image, and restore that without user data. Or you can backup the entire system with user data and restore it.
In any case you need imaging rights.
You need no imaging rights just to backup and restore a system. That is just a stupid thing to say.
He is not restoring to the same system and he wants to change what is on the image.
He is swapping the drive, it most assuredly is the same system.
But that is not what I was responding to. I specifically quoted your stupid ass post stating that a backup and restore required imaging rights.
You're being a dumbass Jared. Golden Image (custom) requires imaging rights. Or you can backup the entire system in restore it.
In any case (what he has explained he wants to do) will require imaging rights. FFS.
Imaging from a golden image of course requires imaging rights. Backing up and restore a system does not.
Stop misleading things.
Also, you can 100% image your system, say quarterly, and restore that image back to your system without image rights. That style of imaging is just a backup.
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Where's the original thread - why isn't it linked in the OP?
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@jaredbusch Hence the recommendation to backup and then restore the drive using a solution like UrBackup.
Yet he has repeated he does not / will not / cannot create backups, but wants to install a new operating system onto these systems and then send them out.
In this case he would require either the OEM image (assuming of course OEM licensing of Windows) or Imaging rights to do this.
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@dashrender said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
Where's the original thread - why isn't it linked in the OP?
The OP is in the first post. I'm no longer linking to SW.
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@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
so now i need to be able to image a new HDD with a windows 7 image taken quarterly and send it back to the user for a swap out.
This sentence tells us this is a backup - restore option.. no golden image.
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@dustinb3403 I'm not replying to the OP, I was replying to your incorrect statement. simple as that.
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@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
on any other image not using UEFI i am able to use repair s disk on a VM with the new HDD on a docing station to restore the image by conventional means and ship them out to all my users that have older x250 laptops but when i try to restore an x260 image in this manner i am getting the error:
I'm not sure what he is doing here. What repair disk on a VM? has he restored the VHD taken by the back to someplace local to him, that he's then mounting to a VM so he can repair the image? If so, why?
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@dashrender said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
on any other image not using UEFI i am able to use repair s disk on a VM with the new HDD on a docing station to restore the image by conventional means and ship them out to all my users that have older x250 laptops but when i try to restore an x260 image in this manner i am getting the error:
I'm not sure what he is doing here. What repair disk on a VM? has he restored the VHD taken by the back to someplace local to him, that he's then mounting to a VM so he can repair the image? If so, why?
That's secondary to the main question. Which is "how can I take a backup of a remote user system, restore the backup to a hard disk local to me?"
The why he needs to repair anything within the image could be a matter of bad software.
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@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dashrender said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
on any other image not using UEFI i am able to use repair s disk on a VM with the new HDD on a docing station to restore the image by conventional means and ship them out to all my users that have older x250 laptops but when i try to restore an x260 image in this manner i am getting the error:
I'm not sure what he is doing here. What repair disk on a VM? has he restored the VHD taken by the back to someplace local to him, that he's then mounting to a VM so he can repair the image? If so, why?
That's secondary to the main question. Which is "how can I take a backup of a remote user system, restore the backup to a hard disk local to me?"
The why he needs to repair anything within the image could be a matter of bad software.
Well that answer to that question seems easy - boot the original computer to Clonezilla, save to a network location - IT person copies image off network location to local, boot system with clonezilla, use local image to restore to drive. done.
FYI, no imaging rights needed here either.
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@dashrender said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dashrender said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
on any other image not using UEFI i am able to use repair s disk on a VM with the new HDD on a docing station to restore the image by conventional means and ship them out to all my users that have older x250 laptops but when i try to restore an x260 image in this manner i am getting the error:
I'm not sure what he is doing here. What repair disk on a VM? has he restored the VHD taken by the back to someplace local to him, that he's then mounting to a VM so he can repair the image? If so, why?
That's secondary to the main question. Which is "how can I take a backup of a remote user system, restore the backup to a hard disk local to me?"
The why he needs to repair anything within the image could be a matter of bad software.
Well that answer to that question seems easy - boot the original computer to Clonezilla, save to a network location - IT person copies image off network location to local, boot system with clonezilla, use local image to restore to drive. done.
FYI, no imaging rights needed here either.
Which a similar solution was provided yet the OP said it wasn't an option.
for some reason
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@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dashrender said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dashrender said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
on any other image not using UEFI i am able to use repair s disk on a VM with the new HDD on a docing station to restore the image by conventional means and ship them out to all my users that have older x250 laptops but when i try to restore an x260 image in this manner i am getting the error:
I'm not sure what he is doing here. What repair disk on a VM? has he restored the VHD taken by the back to someplace local to him, that he's then mounting to a VM so he can repair the image? If so, why?
That's secondary to the main question. Which is "how can I take a backup of a remote user system, restore the backup to a hard disk local to me?"
The why he needs to repair anything within the image could be a matter of bad software.
Well that answer to that question seems easy - boot the original computer to Clonezilla, save to a network location - IT person copies image off network location to local, boot system with clonezilla, use local image to restore to drive. done.
FYI, no imaging rights needed here either.
Which a similar solution was provided yet the OP said it wasn't an option.
for some reason
So that's not an option - how does does he plan to get the data from the remote site?
Shit, I guess he could install Veeam Endpoint protection on it.. have that backup whole system (again to network location) then he can make a Veeam rescue disk an restore it from that network location to the drive.
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@dashrender said in [Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media]
So that's not an option - how does does he plan to get the data from the remote site?
That is a part of the problem and I feel we're missing some critical bits of information regarding what limitations @ezacal has.
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@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dashrender said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dashrender said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
on any other image not using UEFI i am able to use repair s disk on a VM with the new HDD on a docing station to restore the image by conventional means and ship them out to all my users that have older x250 laptops but when i try to restore an x260 image in this manner i am getting the error:
I'm not sure what he is doing here. What repair disk on a VM? has he restored the VHD taken by the back to someplace local to him, that he's then mounting to a VM so he can repair the image? If so, why?
That's secondary to the main question. Which is "how can I take a backup of a remote user system, restore the backup to a hard disk local to me?"
The why he needs to repair anything within the image could be a matter of bad software.
Well that answer to that question seems easy - boot the original computer to Clonezilla, save to a network location - IT person copies image off network location to local, boot system with clonezilla, use local image to restore to drive. done.
FYI, no imaging rights needed here either.
Which a similar solution was provided yet the OP said it wasn't an option.
for some reason
uh - what?
[quote from SW]
what i am trying to do in essence is find a way to restore my windows system image i have and restore is to a Brand new HDD mounted on a docking stations, i do not have direct access to the source machine but i have been tasked with finding if it is possible to restore a windows image to without a Repair disk. i am aware of other more efficient/ convenient methods of doing backup/restoration but i need to work with what i have and see if anyone has had success in a direct image
side note: we need it to be an image restoration because there are a lot of custom programs set up that we no longer have the media for.
this is the only other post from the OP in the thread - I don't see him saying this wasn't an option.
But as to the first part of the OPs question - he does say that he does not have access to the original machine - so that would be why he can't use clonezilla to fix that one.
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There are two different questions here.
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how do I restore this image file (don't worry I won't tell you what kind of image file, or what software was used to make it) to a disk.
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how do I restore an image file to a disk when the image file was taken on a machine that uses UEFI, but my restore machine (I'm reading into it) is only BIOS based.
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@ezacal said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 I appreciate the recommendation of alternate imaging software and i personally would love to use them but my mission is to get the VHDs stored in the windows image to transfer over directly to a blank HDD, no matter the method used the windows image must be the source of the restoration.
This is the issue here. He is stating he must use Windows Recovery to restore the operating system.
Not sure of why or what requirement this is other than
@ezacal said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 ah yes i neglected to mention we are able to clone the drive via clonezilla but a lot of the times the users have to continue work while we send out a new drive, so as of now i only have a windows image to work with, with the constraint of not being able to use a repair disk
Where he says the users have to be able to use their systems.
Which the answer to this is an Agent based backup solution (Veeam Endpoint, UrBackup etc) can all write to remote storage and can be written to new drives that then get sent out to the user to physically remove the hard drive from their system to install this "restored image".
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@dustinb3403 said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@ezacal said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 I appreciate the recommendation of alternate imaging software and i personally would love to use them but my mission is to get the VHDs stored in the windows image to transfer over directly to a blank HDD, no matter the method used the windows image must be the source of the restoration.
This is the issue here. He is stating he must use Windows Recovery to restore the operating system.
Not sure of why or what requirement this is other than
@ezacal said in Cross Post - Restoring Windows 7 Image Without a Repair disk or Installation Media:
@dustinb3403 ah yes i neglected to mention we are able to clone the drive via clonezilla but a lot of the times the users have to continue work while we send out a new drive, so as of now i only have a windows image to work with, with the constraint of not being able to use a repair disk
Where he says the users have to be able to use their systems.
Which the answer to this is an Agent based backup solution (Veeam Endpoint, UrBackup etc) can all write to remote storage and can be written to new drives that then get sent out to the user to physically remove the hard drive from their system to install this "restored image".
There are potential issues with this. Restoring a computer image that's 3 months old could easily find a situation where the restore has a different computer password with the network, etc.
