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      Carnival Boy
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      One quick question for you @scottalanmiller as you're pretty good on Linux databases. Jira uses HSQLDB (HyperSQL DataBase) by default, but they say you should never use this in production as it corrupts easily. I don't really want to spend the time installing another DB. Are they being overcautious?

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        A Former User
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        Also, Three years of support is just $20 per product.

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          scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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          @Carnival-Boy said:

          One quick question for you @scottalanmiller as you're pretty good on Linux databases. Jira uses HSQLDB (HyperSQL DataBase) by default, but they say you should never use this in production as it corrupts easily. I don't really want to spend the time installing another DB. Are they being overcautious?

          Yes, using that is fine for a very small team.

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            Carnival Boy
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            I've decided that whilst Jira might suit me, it's likely to be a bit too complicated and unfriendly for my inexperienced, non-IT colleagues. So I'm planning on using Trello.com instead, which has less functionality but is very simple and looks real pretty.

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              scottalanmiller
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              Jira is nice and powerful but I agree, it can be daunting for people not used to it or anyone that uses it only occasionally. It is designed around being used by a full time development team who use it day in and day out and are very technical to begin with.

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                scottalanmiller
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                @Carnival-Boy said:

                Trello.com

                Trello looks interesting. I have never seen that before. Is it always free? How is it monetized?

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                  Carnival Boy
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                  It's freemium. $45 per user per year if you want a few extra features.

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                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Trello looks interesting. I have never seen that before. Is it always free? How is it monetized?

                    I trialed it. Did not find it useful.

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                      Carnival Boy
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                      Do you use something else instead?

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                        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                        It's freemium. $45 per user per year if you want a few extra features.

                        Not too bad. I'd have to see what the extra features are.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Carnival Boy
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                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                          Do you use something else instead?

                          No. So likely the problem was that I was not in true need of project management software.

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                            Carnival Boy
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                            Trello is good, but I think I'm going to end up developing my own application based on the things I like from both Trello and Jira, plus a few of my own features.

                            I have a real problem with using off-the-shelf software, which is a weakness of mine. It's my controlling nature.

                            I'm a hypocrite because I discourage other people in my firm from using bespoke software, but I end up writing all my own.

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                              tonyshowoff
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                              We used JIRA for a long time until we replaced it with something internal when we bought out another company. We switched to internal Git as well, but Stash was pretty cool, though GitHub's private repo plans aren't that bad and I always liked GitHub's functionality much better.

                              Plus we used some other Atlassian stuff as well, really though they make agile easy as pretty much possible, but like I said, we've replaced them internally, and eventually we'll offer these things to the public as well.

                              Kanban is great not just for planning, but even just for an overall view of a project if you've got your specific tasks and details elsewhere, especially useful for huge projects like an ERP.

                              As far as IDEs go, we use PhpStorm (cross platform), WebStorm (for our JS people), and Visual Studio (for our one person unfortunate enough to manage legacy stuff we inherited).

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                                Carnival Boy
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                                All my internal applications are written in VBScript for classic ASP. I have started a book on C# though.

                                I started using Trello just for my ERP project, and yeah, I'm all about Kanban & Agile.

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                                  tonyshowoff @Carnival Boy
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                                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                                  All my internal applications are written in VBScript for classic ASP. I have started a book on C# though.

                                  I started using Trello just for my ERP project, and yeah, I'm all about Kanban & Agile.

                                  C# is where it's at!

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                                    Carnival Boy
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                                    Indeed. I'm implementing Microsoft Dynamics NAV which I'm completely new to. That uses C/AL for development, but I suspect MS will move away from that towards more and more C#.

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                                      scottalanmiller @tonyshowoff
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                                      @tonyshowoff said:

                                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                                      All my internal applications are written in VBScript for classic ASP. I have started a book on C# though.

                                      I started using Trello just for my ERP project, and yeah, I'm all about Kanban & Agile.

                                      C# is where it's at!

                                      And F#, of course.

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                                        tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @tonyshowoff said:

                                        @Carnival-Boy said:

                                        All my internal applications are written in VBScript for classic ASP. I have started a book on C# though.

                                        I started using Trello just for my ERP project, and yeah, I'm all about Kanban & Agile.

                                        C# is where it's at!

                                        And F#, of course.

                                        Not as much as D minor

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