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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

        Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

        AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @momurda
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          @momurda said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          Isnt this 10s of millions of computers affected? I think just about every single pc and server on my network is on this list:

          6th, 7th and 8th Generation Intel Core processors
          Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5 and v6 processors
          Intel Xeon Scalable processors
          Intel Xeon W processors
          Intel Atom C3000 processors
          Apollo Lake Intel Atom E3900 series
          Apollo Lake Intel Pentiums
          Celeron N and J series processors
          

          Yes, that is correct.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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            @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

            AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

            Time to move everything to ARM.

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            • PenguinWranglerP
              PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

              @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

              Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

              AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

              Time to move everything to ARM.

              This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @PenguinWrangler
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                @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                Time to move everything to ARM.

                This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

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                • PenguinWranglerP
                  PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                  AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                  Time to move everything to ARM.

                  This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                  No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                  I was thinking more bold business moves. There are things they could do that would really help make that happen. It would take their leadership to act boldly and take risk.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                    AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                    Time to move everything to ARM.

                    This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                    No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                    The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                      Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                      AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                      Time to move everything to ARM.

                      This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                      No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                      The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                      For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @momurda
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                        @momurda said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                        Isnt this 10s of millions of computers affected? I think just about every single pc and server on my network is on this list:

                        6th, 7th and 8th Generation Intel Core processors
                        Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5 and v6 processors
                        Intel Xeon Scalable processors
                        Intel Xeon W processors
                        Intel Atom C3000 processors
                        Apollo Lake Intel Atom E3900 series
                        Apollo Lake Intel Pentiums
                        Celeron N and J series processors
                        

                        huh, I think that means less than half my machines are on that list.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                          AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                          Time to move everything to ARM.

                          This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                          No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                          The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                          For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                          exactly!

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                            AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                            Time to move everything to ARM.

                            This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                            No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                            The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                            For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                            Yeah, for some reason, I don't think we need those 64 core CPUs for a desktop!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                              @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                              Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                              AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                              Time to move everything to ARM.

                              This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                              No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                              The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                              For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                              Yeah, for some reason, I don't think we need those 64 core CPUs for a desktop!

                              It's octocore, 8GB machines.

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                                StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller There are ARM servers that can do 240Gbps of network throughput for NFV. Don't think the mobile stuff is all that exists....

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                                  StorageNinja Vendor @StorageNinja
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                                  @storageninja

                                  ARM also attacking HPC.

                                  https://3s81si1s5ygj3mzby34dq6qf-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Isam_bench1.png

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @StorageNinja
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                                    @storageninja said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                    @storageninja

                                    ARM also attacking HPC.

                                    https://3s81si1s5ygj3mzby34dq6qf-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Isam_bench1.png

                                    HPC is an awesome use for ARM. A big thing is getting the software companies to catch up.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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                                      @storageninja said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                      @scottalanmiller There are ARM servers that can do 240Gbps of network throughput for NFV. Don't think the mobile stuff is all that exists....

                                      Right, like I keep saying, just need people to build desktops, don't need anything from ARM.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        Here is a program Intel put together to tell you if you are vulnerable to this and several other security flaws they have found.

                                        https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @dashrender said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                          Here is a program Intel put together to tell you if you are vulnerable to this and several other security flaws they have found.

                                          https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150

                                          But be warned, it's written by a company known to not understand security or be concerned about its customers. So...

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