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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @dbeato
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      @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

      The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

      I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

        The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

        I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

        Yeah, sorry I missed that πŸ™‚

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @dbeato
          last edited by

          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

          The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

          I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

          Yeah, sorry I missed that πŸ™‚

          LOL, there are lots of infrastructure things I'd not do on wifi. But the original article was pretty much written from an "all IT is the end user" perspective as if there was no tech involved anyway.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

            The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

            I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

            There's some new wireless about that I wouldn't be afraid to use as interconnects with servers, but it's not wifi. mm wave beamforming and 40Gb/s if I remember right.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

              The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

              I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

              Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @EddieJennings
                last edited by

                @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

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                I win security!

                *snip, hides scissors*

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                  The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                  I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                  Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                  SAN is even worse.

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                  • EddieJenningsE
                    EddieJennings @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                    |can|β€”β€”β€”stringβ€”β€”β€”|can|

                    I win security!

                    *snip, hides scissors*

                    Curses! Foiled by the script kiddie who googled how to compromise a yarn-based connection. πŸ˜›

                    </silliness>

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                    • EddieJenningsE
                      EddieJennings @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                      The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                      I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                      Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                      We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @EddieJennings
                        last edited by

                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                        The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                        I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                        Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                        We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                        Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

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                        • EddieJenningsE
                          EddieJennings @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                          The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                          I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                          Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                          We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                          Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                          I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                            The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                            I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                            Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                            We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                            Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                            I think so.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                              last edited by

                              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                              The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                              I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                              Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                              We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                              Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                              I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                              Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @dashrender said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @dafyre said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                @dbeato said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                The only thing I would not run over wifi is VoIP phones, not because of security but stability on the network.

                                I'd be hesitant to do SAN or database connections over Wifi, too πŸ™‚

                                Can't speak to SAN over WiFi, but databases over Wifi will suck big time -- even if your wifi is reliable.

                                We have an accountant that comes in every payday to do tasks in Sage. It was decreed she will work in X room on a laptop. I made sure I had a cable that would reach the nearest drop. Just imagine talking to the PervasiveSQL Sage database over wifi.

                                Ug, does the DB actually get transferred to the endpoint, like QB?

                                I've never dealt with Quickbooks, but to my knowledge, Sage talks to the DB that lives on a mapped drive, so I don't think any DB files are transferred to the individual workstations.

                                Actually, that's exactly what's happening and what Dash meant. A "real" DB connection is via a DB protocol, never via a mapped drive.

                                Exactly.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Or to put it into really tech terms, it's a shared database file, a system lacking a DBMS.

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings
                                    last edited by EddieJennings

                                    Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                    But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                      last edited by

                                      @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                      Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                      But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                      Is it a surprise that it is crap?

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                        Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                        But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                        Is it a surprise that it is crap?

                                        Nope. Just seeing learning more about exactly why it's crap.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                          last edited by

                                          @eddiejennings said in To Cable, or Not to Cable:

                                          Learn something new and spectacular about Sage every day. πŸ˜•

                                          But on a positive note, I learn correct terminology πŸ™‚

                                          How old is your sage install?

                                          We have Business Works (formally Business Works Gold). I'm pretty sure they have moved onto a real DB connection. They use a Pervasive DB.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Business class databases always have a database server. Even simple websites like a WordPress site use a real RDBMS. Basically, Sage and QB don't see themselves in the same category, or even remotely close, with a little hobby blog site.

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