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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Personally we've found our Zimbra + NextCloud + Rocket system to be so much cheaper, and to work so much better, than Office 365 ever did. And GSuite has always been just horrible when we've tried it.

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      • CloudKnightC
        CloudKnight
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        It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

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        • wrx7mW
          wrx7m @CloudKnight
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          @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

          If they did, they would have to drop them down again. Their ability to scale is much greater than most companies'.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

            If they did, they would have to drop them down again. Their ability to scale is much greater than most companies'.

            But also their need to scale is much bigger.

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            • CloudKnightC
              CloudKnight @wrx7m
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              @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

              If they did, they would have to drop them down again. Their ability to scale is much greater than most companies'.

              True, but they do make silly moves sometimes. I cannot see why people would stay with G Suite when 365 has better online editors. I don't think Google have changed or added more features to sheets and docs since they launched it, doesn't seem like they had when I last used them anyway.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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                @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

                If they did, they would have to drop them down again. Their ability to scale is much greater than most companies'.

                True, but they do make silly moves sometimes. I cannot see why people would stay with G Suite when 365 has better online editors. I don't think Google have changed or added more features to sheets and docs since they launched it, doesn't seem like they had when I last used them anyway.

                I agree, the whole things feels like the tried it, thought it was "good enough" to show, then gave up and forgot. Just like all other Google products.

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                • wrx7mW
                  wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller - They definitely do that. I can think of several off the top of my head.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                    @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @scottalanmiller - They definitely do that. I can think of several off the top of my head.

                    I can't... because I immediately forget every product that Google talks about because I know that they won't be around long enough for me to care.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      This is funny... the top ten of Google products that were killed off and forgotten. But it is the top ten.. from TWELVE years ago! HAHA. A new top ten would likely not include any of these.

                      https://lifehacker.com/313530/top-10-google-products-you-forgot-all-about

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller True, but taking advantage their size (scale) is where the value comes in. But, value is subjective. If you can run your own Zimbra, Nextcloud and rocketchat servers in-house (co-lo or on-prem) for less, then there is more value for you to do it that way.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                          last edited by

                          @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller True, but taking advantage their size (scale) is where the value comes in. But, value is subjective. If you can run your own Zimbra, Nextcloud and rocketchat servers in-house (co-lo or on-prem) for less, then there is more value for you to do it that way.

                          That's what we found. Even Zoho, at half the price of GSuite, costs us quite a bit more than the open source suite. With less flexibility.

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                          • wrx7mW
                            wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller LMAO - I don't remember any of those. I was also one of the people who got a gmail invite, when that was still a thing.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                              @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @scottalanmiller LMAO - I don't remember any of those. I was also one of the people who got a gmail invite, when that was still a thing.

                              I don't remember any of them either! I'm glad I'm not the only one.

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                              • CloudKnightC
                                CloudKnight
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                                Google Maps is one decent thing though, I'll give them that lol

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m @CloudKnight
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                                  @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  Google Maps is one decent thing though, I'll give them that lol

                                  Yeah. That is something that I can't see them ever killing off.

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                                  • CloudKnightC
                                    CloudKnight @wrx7m
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                                    @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    Google Maps is one decent thing though, I'll give them that lol

                                    Yeah. That is something that I can't see them ever killing off.

                                    Agree, don't think they would ever do that.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                                      @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      Google Maps is one decent thing though, I'll give them that lol

                                      Yeah. That is something that I can't see them ever killing off.

                                      Yeah, like Hangout or Wave.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
                                        last edited by

                                        @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        Google Maps is one decent thing though, I'll give them that lol

                                        They make lots of "decent" stuff. They just don't continue to make them.

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                                        • wrx7mW
                                          wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller - No. lol Not like those. I use hangouts, but not many people do. I never used wave. Mapquest used to be a thing, and still is. Except, not really. Google maps is the defacto map app for smart devices, especially Android.

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                                          • dbeatoD
                                            dbeato
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                                            I can tell you some,

                                            Google +, Google Reader (RSS Reader), Picassa (photo editor), Google Talk (Hangout predecesor), google labs, Google Earth Enterprise, Google URL Shorterner (https://firebase.google.com/support/guides/url-shortener), Inbox, Google Code. All those ones I used.

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