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    • jmooreJ
      jmoore @black3dynamite
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      @black3dynamite Not directly i don't think but if Red Hat will not use it then then effectively it is causing less people to use it.

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato
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        https://blog.zimbra.com/2019/01/new-zimbra-patches-8-8-11-patch-1-and-8-8-10-patch-5-and-8-8-9-patch-9/

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @black3dynamite
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          @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @DustinB3403 This has to be a major goof up from MongoDB. I bet they redo their license so it is accepted by Red Hat. I can't believe they will keep things as is.

          It doesn’t stop users from using MongoDB repo or will that change too?

          It will en d up in RPMFusion. That is pretty much the purpose of the repo.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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            @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @DustinB3403 This has to be a major goof up from MongoDB. I bet they redo their license so it is accepted by Red Hat. I can't believe they will keep things as is.

            It doesn’t stop users from using MongoDB repo or will that change too?

            That's already what everyone uses.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @jmoore
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              @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @DustinB3403 This has to be a major goof up from MongoDB. I bet they redo their license so it is accepted by Red Hat. I can't believe they will keep things as is.

              I doubt that they will change.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                https://mspoweruser.com/google-raises-g-suite-prices-by-20-percent/

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                • wrx7mW
                  wrx7m @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  https://mspoweruser.com/google-raises-g-suite-prices-by-20-percent/

                  I wonder if MS will increase to follow suit.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                    @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    https://mspoweruser.com/google-raises-g-suite-prices-by-20-percent/

                    I wonder if MS will increase to follow suit.

                    Zoho already did several months ago.

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                    • wrx7mW
                      wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      https://mspoweruser.com/google-raises-g-suite-prices-by-20-percent/

                      I wonder if MS will increase to follow suit.

                      Zoho already did several months ago.

                      95+% of our licenses are Business Premium, which is already more than the gsuite offering. But, as it says, you get more with Office 365. If that is of any value, you will have to decide.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Personally we've found our Zimbra + NextCloud + Rocket system to be so much cheaper, and to work so much better, than Office 365 ever did. And GSuite has always been just horrible when we've tried it.

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                        • CloudKnightC
                          CloudKnight
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                          It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

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                          • wrx7mW
                            wrx7m @CloudKnight
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                            @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

                            If they did, they would have to drop them down again. Their ability to scale is much greater than most companies'.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                              @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

                              If they did, they would have to drop them down again. Their ability to scale is much greater than most companies'.

                              But also their need to scale is much bigger.

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                              • CloudKnightC
                                CloudKnight @wrx7m
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                                @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

                                If they did, they would have to drop them down again. Their ability to scale is much greater than most companies'.

                                True, but they do make silly moves sometimes. I cannot see why people would stay with G Suite when 365 has better online editors. I don't think Google have changed or added more features to sheets and docs since they launched it, doesn't seem like they had when I last used them anyway.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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                                  @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @StuartJordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  It makes me wonder if Microsoft and Google will use heavy increases eventually that will push companies to use colo and solutions like you have suggested Scott.

                                  If they did, they would have to drop them down again. Their ability to scale is much greater than most companies'.

                                  True, but they do make silly moves sometimes. I cannot see why people would stay with G Suite when 365 has better online editors. I don't think Google have changed or added more features to sheets and docs since they launched it, doesn't seem like they had when I last used them anyway.

                                  I agree, the whole things feels like the tried it, thought it was "good enough" to show, then gave up and forgot. Just like all other Google products.

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                                  • wrx7mW
                                    wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller - They definitely do that. I can think of several off the top of my head.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                                      @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @scottalanmiller - They definitely do that. I can think of several off the top of my head.

                                      I can't... because I immediately forget every product that Google talks about because I know that they won't be around long enough for me to care.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        This is funny... the top ten of Google products that were killed off and forgotten. But it is the top ten.. from TWELVE years ago! HAHA. A new top ten would likely not include any of these.

                                        https://lifehacker.com/313530/top-10-google-products-you-forgot-all-about

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                                        • wrx7mW
                                          wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller True, but taking advantage their size (scale) is where the value comes in. But, value is subjective. If you can run your own Zimbra, Nextcloud and rocketchat servers in-house (co-lo or on-prem) for less, then there is more value for you to do it that way.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                                            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @scottalanmiller True, but taking advantage their size (scale) is where the value comes in. But, value is subjective. If you can run your own Zimbra, Nextcloud and rocketchat servers in-house (co-lo or on-prem) for less, then there is more value for you to do it that way.

                                            That's what we found. Even Zoho, at half the price of GSuite, costs us quite a bit more than the open source suite. With less flexibility.

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