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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/11/youre-gonna-need-a-case-iphone-x-fares-poorly-in-first-drop-tests/#p3

      Odd.

      I'm sure the phone cases and apple care + thing are far more profitable for them than building a decently resilient device.

      Man the Galaxy S8+ is absolutely horrible too. I know i only paid like $100 for it, but my screen is all busted up already. Before that, it got scratched so easily too. This is the first phone I've had that the screen got scratched and the screen cracked so easily.

      My phone habits have been the same as always. Never a scratch or crack before. This curved screen thing makes it so damn weak it's unreal.

      I will never again get a phone with a curved screen. Maybe not even a Samsung galaxy. Now I have to deal with a cracked screen for a couple years as it costs $300 just to replace the screen. I suppose you could do just the glass, but you need specialized equipment well over the cost just to do it.

      Big mistake.

      $300 - WTF? I thought the iPhone 6s was bad at $90

      Having the Apple Store replace your iPhone 7 screen is only like $150 without Apple Care. WTF is the reasoning for a $300 screen repair by any other service?

      Because you can't do just the glass, you have to replace the digitizer as well. I did find a German youtube video of them doing just the glass... but that's way beyond what I could do.

      Bad design on their part them if those two are not easily done separate.

      Unless they'd rather sell you a new phone than a replacement screen... Then it works as designed.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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        @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/11/youre-gonna-need-a-case-iphone-x-fares-poorly-in-first-drop-tests/#p3

        Odd.

        I'm sure the phone cases and apple care + thing are far more profitable for them than building a decently resilient device.

        Man the Galaxy S8+ is absolutely horrible too. I know i only paid like $100 for it, but my screen is all busted up already. Before that, it got scratched so easily too. This is the first phone I've had that the screen got scratched and the screen cracked so easily.

        My phone habits have been the same as always. Never a scratch or crack before. This curved screen thing makes it so damn weak it's unreal.

        I will never again get a phone with a curved screen. Maybe not even a Samsung galaxy. Now I have to deal with a cracked screen for a couple years as it costs $300 just to replace the screen. I suppose you could do just the glass, but you need specialized equipment well over the cost just to do it.

        Big mistake.

        $300 - WTF? I thought the iPhone 6s was bad at $90

        Having the Apple Store replace your iPhone 7 screen is only like $150 without Apple Care. WTF is the reasoning for a $300 screen repair by any other service?

        Because you can't do just the glass, you have to replace the digitizer as well. I did find a German youtube video of them doing just the glass... but that's way beyond what I could do.

        Bad design on their part them if those two are not easily done separate.

        Unless they'd rather sell you a new phone than a replacement screen... Then it works as designed.

        Or they just want to make a lot selling screen replacements.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/11/youre-gonna-need-a-case-iphone-x-fares-poorly-in-first-drop-tests/#p3

          Odd.

          I'm sure the phone cases and apple care + thing are far more profitable for them than building a decently resilient device.

          Man the Galaxy S8+ is absolutely horrible too. I know i only paid like $100 for it, but my screen is all busted up already. Before that, it got scratched so easily too. This is the first phone I've had that the screen got scratched and the screen cracked so easily.

          My phone habits have been the same as always. Never a scratch or crack before. This curved screen thing makes it so damn weak it's unreal.

          I will never again get a phone with a curved screen. Maybe not even a Samsung galaxy. Now I have to deal with a cracked screen for a couple years as it costs $300 just to replace the screen. I suppose you could do just the glass, but you need specialized equipment well over the cost just to do it.

          Big mistake.

          $300 - WTF? I thought the iPhone 6s was bad at $90

          Having the Apple Store replace your iPhone 7 screen is only like $150 without Apple Care. WTF is the reasoning for a $300 screen repair by any other service?

          Because you can't do just the glass, you have to replace the digitizer as well. I did find a German youtube video of them doing just the glass... but that's way beyond what I could do.

          Bad design on their part them if those two are not easily done separate.

          Unless they'd rather sell you a new phone than a replacement screen... Then it works as designed.

          Or they just want to make a lot selling screen replacements.

          I think they are just trying to get fancy with their un-needed curved screen and in the process losing durability.

          But if you think about it... how much should a tiny but very high-definition high-quality touch screen cost?

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          • jmooreJ
            jmoore @mlnews
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            @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            OpenIndiana 2017.10 has released and now has the MATE desktop.

            I would like to try and get to know a modern Solaris. I am just a little late I know. Is this the best Solaris derivative or is there something else better?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @jmoore
              last edited by

              @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              OpenIndiana 2017.10 has released and now has the MATE desktop.

              I would like to try and get to know a modern Solaris. I am just a little late I know. Is this the best Solaris derivative or is there something else better?

              Well you can always use Solaris proper. OpenIndiana would be the best derivative for general purpose work.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                In this day and age, I'm not sure getting to know Solaris is still worth it. It's dead.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.

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                  • jmooreJ
                    jmoore @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/11/youre-gonna-need-a-case-iphone-x-fares-poorly-in-first-drop-tests/#p3

                    Odd.

                    I'm sure the phone cases and apple care + thing are far more profitable for them than building a decently resilient device.

                    Man the Galaxy S8+ is absolutely horrible too. I know i only paid like $100 for it, but my screen is all busted up already. Before that, it got scratched so easily too. This is the first phone I've had that the screen got scratched and the screen cracked so easily.

                    My phone habits have been the same as always. Never a scratch or crack before. This curved screen thing makes it so damn weak it's unreal.

                    I will never again get a phone with a curved screen. Maybe not even a Samsung galaxy. Now I have to deal with a cracked screen for a couple years as it costs $300 just to replace the screen. I suppose you could do just the glass, but you need specialized equipment well over the cost just to do it.

                    Big mistake.

                    I never liked Apple phones but had Samsung for a while. Eventually I got fed up with them too. I have now moved to Huawei phones. I have the 64 gb Mate9. It has been great and very reliable. Much more resilient than those 3 crap Samsung phones I had. Being chinese I don't know if I should be worried about security or not but I have not heard anything about them like I have lenovo. I have loved my Mate 9 and will buy the Mate 10 soon for my second phone.

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                    • jmooreJ
                      jmoore @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.

                      Yeah I used Solaris a long time ago that was in a friend's business and liked it. Wanted to get around to trying it again but just never did.

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore @wrx7m
                          last edited by

                          @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.

                          I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @jmoore
                            last edited by

                            @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.

                            I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?

                            Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Sparc team was also liquidated and their primary Sparc partner was bought by Lenovo. So... Sparc is dead, too.

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                              • jmooreJ
                                jmoore @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.

                                I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?

                                Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."

                                Well darn. Is OpenIndiana worth playing around with then?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @jmoore
                                  last edited by

                                  @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.

                                  Yeah I used Solaris a long time ago that was in a friend's business and liked it. Wanted to get around to trying it again but just never did.

                                  It's in the category with BeOS, TrueUNIX and such now. A neat chapter of history, but sadly gone.

                                  I started my UNIX journey on Solaris 2.4, in 1994 on 32 bit Sparc hardware.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @jmoore
                                    last edited by

                                    @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.

                                    I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?

                                    Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."

                                    Well darn. Is OpenIndiana worth playing around with then?

                                    Not IMHO. It's not a bad project, but it offers nothing of real value. If you want to use UNIX, you have Linux, BSD, and AIX today. No other UNIX has any utility.

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                                    • jmooreJ
                                      jmoore @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.

                                      Yeah I used Solaris a long time ago that was in a friend's business and liked it. Wanted to get around to trying it again but just never did.

                                      It's in the category with BeOS, TrueUNIX and such now. A neat chapter of history, but sadly gone.

                                      I started my UNIX journey on Solaris 2.4, in 1994 on 32 bit Sparc hardware.

                                      Very cool!

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                                      • jmooreJ
                                        jmoore @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.

                                        I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?

                                        Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."

                                        Well darn. Is OpenIndiana worth playing around with then?

                                        Not IMHO. It's not a bad project, but it offers nothing of real value. If you want to use UNIX, you have Linux, BSD, and AIX today. No other UNIX has any utility.

                                        BSD is more mature and stable of a project isn't it?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @jmoore
                                          last edited by

                                          @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          And I say that as someone that really loves Solaris.

                                          Yeah I used Solaris a long time ago that was in a friend's business and liked it. Wanted to get around to trying it again but just never did.

                                          It's in the category with BeOS, TrueUNIX and such now. A neat chapter of history, but sadly gone.

                                          I started my UNIX journey on Solaris 2.4, in 1994 on 32 bit Sparc hardware.

                                          Very cool!

                                          Just sad to see Solaris and Sparc dying off. The end of an era.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @jmoore
                                            last edited by

                                            @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @jmoore said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @scottalanmiller I was going to say that I thought it was dead long ago.

                                            I think you are both right. Didn't I read that Oracle quit development on Solaris totally?

                                            Not "totally", but "for all intents and purposes."

                                            Well darn. Is OpenIndiana worth playing around with then?

                                            Not IMHO. It's not a bad project, but it offers nothing of real value. If you want to use UNIX, you have Linux, BSD, and AIX today. No other UNIX has any utility.

                                            BSD is more mature and stable of a project isn't it?

                                            BSD is heavily used and extremely mature. OpenIndiana is well done, but borders on being a hobby project.

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