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    macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem

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    • s.hacklemanS
      s.hackleman
      last edited by

      I didn't even realize mine changed. The update took about 45 min, rebooted twice. I didn't think it would change the file system without me doing a backup and offline update. Just checked, and sure enough I'm on APFS.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @s.hackleman
        last edited by

        @s-hackleman said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

        I didn't even realize mine changed. The update took about 45 min, rebooted twice. I didn't think it would change the file system without me doing a backup and offline update. Just checked, and sure enough I'm on APFS.

        Nice. Is it noticeably faster?

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco
          last edited by

          Isn't the file system change dependent on whether or not you install the OS on an SSD?

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          • s.hacklemanS
            s.hackleman @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller I haven't been working on anything big in the last couple days. I also updated to VMWare Fusion 10 Pro from 8. It has made my dev VM's noticeably more snappy. I'm not 100% sure if that is the file system, VMWare's hardware changes, or spooky magic, but I'll take it.

            On another note why is everyone now Skipping version 9? iPhone 8 >iPhone X (10), VMWare Fusion 8 > 10, Windows 8.1 > 10... What is going on?

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            • s.hacklemanS
              s.hackleman @RojoLoco
              last edited by s.hackleman

              @rojoloco said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

              Isn't the file system change dependent on whether or not you install the OS on an SSD?

              Late 2013 Macbook Pro with a 1 TB SSD here, installed filesystem on update by default.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @s.hackleman
                last edited by

                @s-hackleman said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                @scottalanmiller I haven't been working on anything big in the last couple days. I also updated to VMWare Fusion 10 Pro from 8. It has made my dev VM's noticeably more snappy. I'm not 100% sure if that is the file system, VMWare's hardware changes, or spooky magic, but I'll take it.

                On another note why is everyone now Skipping version 9? iPhone 8 >iPhone X (10), VMWare Fusion 8 > 10, Windows 8.1 > 10... What is going on?

                Californians can't count?

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                • dbeatoD
                  dbeato @RojoLoco
                  last edited by

                  @rojoloco Yes, it is dependant of your drive being SSD. If you want to avoid it, you create a backup and upgrade using a HDD. Then clone the HDD to a SSD drive.

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                    @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                    My concern is with what it will break. Each macOS release has broken something for us, and some of them go into the "just live with it" category because Apple appears to be completely unresponsive to their power user community.

                    Like how they broke SMB and AFP protocols and just ignore it?

                    I have had issues with this for years, here.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                      last edited by

                      @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                      @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                      @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                      My concern is with what it will break. Each macOS release has broken something for us, and some of them go into the "just live with it" category because Apple appears to be completely unresponsive to their power user community.

                      Like how they broke SMB and AFP protocols and just ignore it?

                      I have had issues with this for years, here.

                      Replace Finder 🙂

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                        @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                        @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                        @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                        My concern is with what it will break. Each macOS release has broken something for us, and some of them go into the "just live with it" category because Apple appears to be completely unresponsive to their power user community.

                        Like how they broke SMB and AFP protocols and just ignore it?

                        I have had issues with this for years, here.

                        Replace Finder 🙂

                        Replace Mac with PC 😉

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                          last edited by

                          @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                          @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                          @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                          @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                          @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                          My concern is with what it will break. Each macOS release has broken something for us, and some of them go into the "just live with it" category because Apple appears to be completely unresponsive to their power user community.

                          Like how they broke SMB and AFP protocols and just ignore it?

                          I have had issues with this for years, here.

                          Replace Finder 🙂

                          Replace Mac with PC 😉

                          Well sure, if you want a FIX rather than a bandaid.

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                          • KellyK
                            Kelly @wrx7m
                            last edited by

                            @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                            @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                            @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                            @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                            @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                            My concern is with what it will break. Each macOS release has broken something for us, and some of them go into the "just live with it" category because Apple appears to be completely unresponsive to their power user community.

                            Like how they broke SMB and AFP protocols and just ignore it?

                            I have had issues with this for years, here.

                            Replace Finder 🙂

                            Replace Mac with PC 😉

                            As soon as I can have a POSIX native environment with Microsoft Office I will be. I'm really, really hoping for Office for Linux to come out soon.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Kelly
                              last edited by

                              @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                              @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                              @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                              @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                              @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                              @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                              My concern is with what it will break. Each macOS release has broken something for us, and some of them go into the "just live with it" category because Apple appears to be completely unresponsive to their power user community.

                              Like how they broke SMB and AFP protocols and just ignore it?

                              I have had issues with this for years, here.

                              Replace Finder 🙂

                              Replace Mac with PC 😉

                              As soon as I can have a POSIX native environment with Microsoft Office I will be. I'm really, really hoping for Office for Linux to come out soon.

                              I find there is nothing on the IT side that requires me to use MS Office docs of any sort.

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                              • KellyK
                                Kelly @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                My concern is with what it will break. Each macOS release has broken something for us, and some of them go into the "just live with it" category because Apple appears to be completely unresponsive to their power user community.

                                Like how they broke SMB and AFP protocols and just ignore it?

                                I have had issues with this for years, here.

                                Replace Finder 🙂

                                Replace Mac with PC 😉

                                As soon as I can have a POSIX native environment with Microsoft Office I will be. I'm really, really hoping for Office for Linux to come out soon.

                                I find there is nothing on the IT side that requires me to use MS Office docs of any sort.

                                We are a US federal government contractor. If there is even a hiccup in a process we get push back. So far the pain of using Mac/MS Office has been high enough to warrant the frustrations with customers.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Kelly
                                  last edited by

                                  @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                  @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                  @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                  @wrx7m said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                  @kelly said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                  My concern is with what it will break. Each macOS release has broken something for us, and some of them go into the "just live with it" category because Apple appears to be completely unresponsive to their power user community.

                                  Like how they broke SMB and AFP protocols and just ignore it?

                                  I have had issues with this for years, here.

                                  Replace Finder 🙂

                                  Replace Mac with PC 😉

                                  As soon as I can have a POSIX native environment with Microsoft Office I will be. I'm really, really hoping for Office for Linux to come out soon.

                                  I find there is nothing on the IT side that requires me to use MS Office docs of any sort.

                                  We are a US federal government contractor. If there is even a hiccup in a process we get push back. So far the pain of using Mac/MS Office has been high enough to warrant the frustrations with customers.

                                  To be fair, Mac is pretty bad for that kind of thing. Same issue here, even a tiny logistics company and while nearly everyone can use Linux (and does), the people doing the docs can't even use Mac.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    So for those using APFS, how is it looking now that you've had a few weeks with it?

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                                    • KellyK
                                      Kelly @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in macOS 10.13 High Sierra Coming with APFS Filesystem:

                                      So for those using APFS, how is it looking now that you've had a few weeks with it?

                                      Nothing noticeably different.

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