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    Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD

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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @IRJ
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      @irj said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

      @rojoloco said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

      @mattspeller said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

      @rojoloco best have your wallet ready

      Shiiiii-yuhhhhhhh..... I'll use my +10 "charming-ass mafacka" power on her... set <talk> to <smooth>....

      watch this.....

      walks away with 10,000 licenses to some software he doesn't need...

      ...You guys want the link to the Tumblr page where Amy Sweet got nekkid?

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      • coliverC
        coliver @IRJ
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        @irj said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

        @mattspeller said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

        @rojoloco best have your wallet ready

        Our roads are flooded, no traffic lights are working, gas and water are not available, but I damn sure want to focus on looking at a new security vendor.

        I mean... she gave you the picture not much effort at that point.

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        • jmooreJ
          jmoore @IRJ
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          @irj Oh I got one of these too I get emails from.

          0_1505953589242_tempgirl.PNG

          Yeah they are the only ones with a profile picture like that

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          • coliverC
            coliver @jmoore
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            @jmoore said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

            @irj Oh I got one of these too I get emails from.

            0_1505953589242_tempgirl.PNG

            Yeah they are the only ones with a profile picture like that

            Man she looks like she's being held hostage with that picture.

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            • jmooreJ
              jmoore @coliver
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              @coliver yeah she changed it recently. Previous one was better though it was in a mirror so you could see her phone and her taking a selfie lol

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @coliver
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                @coliver said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                @jmoore said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                @irj Oh I got one of these too I get emails from.

                0_1505953589242_tempgirl.PNG

                Yeah they are the only ones with a profile picture like that

                Man she looks like she's being held hostage with that picture.

                She really does look like somebody is holding a gun off screen...

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @coliver
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                  @coliver said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                  @irj said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                  @mattspeller said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                  @rojoloco best have your wallet ready

                  Our roads are flooded, no traffic lights are working, gas and water are not available, but I damn sure want to focus on looking at a new security vendor.

                  I mean... she gave you the picture not much effort at that point.

                  huh?

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    Is there any additional information on this, or has anything new come to light?

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                    • zachary715Z
                      zachary715 @DustinB3403
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                      Seeking Alpha has covered Ubiquiti pretty well since then. They aren't fond of the way the CEO has handled the allegations as well as other areas of the company, but ultimately they, like many others, don't see the ultimate fraud that Citron claims to see.

                      https://seekingalpha.com/article/4109829-baffling-investor-day-ubiquiti-board-needs-take-action

                      https://seekingalpha.com/article/4111349-ubiquiti-networks-sound-company-unorthodox-business-model

                      In other news, Citron apparently has chosen their next victim... Shopify. Has made some pretty bold claims against them as the new Herbalife (If you haven't seen the documentary about Herbalife "Betting on Zero" you should). It seems to me like Citron is really trying to capitalize on their 15 secs of fame.

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                      • zachary715Z
                        zachary715 @DustinB3403
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                        There are still concerns and questions about the CEO and his commitment and focus, especially as he reportedly is looking to take a majority stake in an NBA team soon. From an investor standpoint, disregarding Citron's fraud accusations, it's a concern, however doesn't ultimately affect the products.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          I found the seekingalpha website, but I've never heard of them before looking into this topic today. It does seem that the CEO is a bit off of his rocker / not ideally suited for the role in which he is in.

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                          • zachary715Z
                            zachary715 @DustinB3403
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                            Never heard of Seeking Alpha? They're pretty popular in the finance/investing world. It's just a good place to do/get analysis on different companies. They're definitely reputable.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @zachary715
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                              @zachary715 said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                              Never heard of Seeking Alpha? They're pretty popular in the finance/investing world. It's just a good place to do/get analysis on different companies. They're definitely reputable.

                              I'm not big into investing / finances.

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                              • bigbearB
                                bigbear @zachary715
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                                @zachary715 said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                There are still concerns and questions about the CEO and his commitment and focus, especially as he reportedly is looking to take a majority stake in an NBA team soon. From an investor standpoint, disregarding Citron's fraud accusations, it's a concern, however doesn't ultimately affect the products.

                                Didnt he already take a majority stake in the Grizzlies?

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @bigbear
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                                  @bigbear I thought he bought into a team as well, but not a majority share of it.

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                                  • zachary715Z
                                    zachary715 @bigbear
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                                    My memory is alluding me, but I seem to remember reading that he would soon have an opportunity to take a larger stake, whether full ownership or large(r) majority, and that some were waiting to see what he would do. I believe Citron was using this info as justification for part of their accusations but I can't remember the argument.

                                    I know from an investor standpoint, it's not ideal to see a young, growing company with a CEO who may be more focused on signing the next star free-agent player vs developing the next great networking device.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @zachary715
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                                      @zachary715 said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                      I know from an investor standpoint, it's not ideal to see a young, growing company with a CEO who may be more focused on signing the next star free-agent player vs developing the next great networking device.

                                      Yeah, but the CEO is just investing, that it is a sports team is irrelevant. Everyone in a CEO role is investing, this is a red herring. Also, CEOs don't develop products.

                                      Basically someone is blowing smoke and pretending that CEO's having lives of their own should not be allowed.

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                                        StorageNinja Vendor @zachary715
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                                        @zachary715 said in Notorious Short-seller labels Ubiquiti Networks $UBNT as FRAUD:

                                        I know from an investor standpoint, it's not ideal to see a young, growing company with a CEO who may be more focused on signing the next star free-agent player vs developing the next great networking device

                                        You mean like Mark Cuban? (who's a tech billionaire).

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                                        • zachary715Z
                                          zachary715 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller So he's not at all involved in the front office decisions of the team that take time away from CEO of Ubiquiti? I'm not saying a man can't spend his time on other endeavors (Elon Musk) I'm just saying for a young company like UBNT many investors would likely like to see him focusing more of his time on the company he's trying to grow.

                                          Yes I'm aware he doesn't actually develop the products himself, but he's also not kicked back in his chair in the corner office strumming a guitar all day. The man is overseeing a $4.5 billion dollar company. If I'm an investor, I'd like to see him more focused on UBNT than the Grizzlies. That's my personal preference and I've seen others who have shared this same sentiment but that's to each investor's choosing.

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                                          • zachary715Z
                                            zachary715 @StorageNinja
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                                            @storageninja Is Mark Cuban CEO of a young, public company that's in full growth mode? He may be, I don't know. It seems to me like he's most focused on the Mavs these days and his other business ventures are side projects/investments. Not minimizing his other investments, it just seems like the Mavs is where most of his attention goes. I don't follow every Mark Cuban move though so I could be wrong here.

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