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    • FATeknollogeeF
      FATeknollogee
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      Then let XOA communicate directly with KVM !
      Who says you can't be everywhere?

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      • olivierO
        olivier @FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        @fateknollogee 1. Because KVM APIs are really light (like "pure" Xen APIs).
        2. This will require hiring 10 people approx for 1y.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @olivier
          last edited by

          @olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

          @fateknollogee 1. Because KVM APIs are really light (like "pure" Xen APIs).
          2. This will require hiring 10 people approx for 1y.

          10 people for a year for beer and food seems like a good investment.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates
            last edited by

            CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

            0_1505595593212_console.png

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @stacksofplates
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              @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

              CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

              0_1505595593212_console.png

              Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

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              • matteo nunziatiM
                matteo nunziati @Obsolesce
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                @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                0_1505595593212_console.png

                Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

                well it depends on cockpit for the most. there are vnc web implementations out there, like in kimchi.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                  @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                  CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                  0_1505595593212_console.png

                  Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

                  If you only have SPICE it makes you run through virt-viewer. Currently I don't know of a way to do it.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @stacksofplates
                    last edited by

                    @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                    @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                    @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                    CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                    0_1505595593212_console.png

                    Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

                    If you only have SPICE it makes you run through virt-viewer. Currently I don't know of a way to do it.

                    Okay yeah, that's what I was getting at.

                    It would be nice via Cockpit web console... perfect actually, rather than having to do the whole Kimchi thing.

                    I've just had best luck all around with Spice. But for non-gui VMs, VNC would work.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                      @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                      @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                      @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                      CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                      0_1505595593212_console.png

                      Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

                      If you only have SPICE it makes you run through virt-viewer. Currently I don't know of a way to do it.

                      Okay yeah, that's what I was getting at.

                      It would be nice via Cockpit web console... perfect actually, rather than having to do the whole Kimchi thing.

                      I've just had best luck all around with Spice. But for non-gui VMs, VNC would work.

                      Ya SPICE is definitely better in every regard. I'm sure they will get there. I can't log into the console on most of mine anyway so it's not a big deal for me.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @stacksofplates
                        last edited by Obsolesce

                        @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                        CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                        What did you do to be able to see the terminal in Cockpit? When I try I just see "Manual Connection" connection info, and a button to launch Remote Viewer. I do have both SPICE and VNC display added.

                        When I'm using In-Browser Viewer, I don't get anything.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                          @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                          CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                          What did you do to be able to see the terminal in Cockpit? When I try I just see "Manual Connection" connection info, and a button to launch Remote Viewer. I do have both SPICE and VNC display added.

                          When I'm using In-Browser Viewer, I don't get anything.

                          Oh, it was hidden. When I resized my web browser, it showed the "Password Required" box.

                          In order for me to see that, I have to resize my web browser every time. If it's maximized, I have to un-maximize it, and then maximize it again, or resize it any way period to get it to show. Weird.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            If I have the VNC connection passworded, in Cockpit after entering the password, it gives an error: "Failed to connect to server (code: 1006)".

                            If I do not use a password, it works fine. Anyone else run into this?

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                              If I have the VNC connection passworded, in Cockpit after entering the password, it gives an error: "Failed to connect to server (code: 1006)".

                              If I do not use a password, it works fine. Anyone else run into this?

                              No I haven't used that function.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                                What did you do to be able to see the terminal in Cockpit? When I try I just see "Manual Connection" connection info, and a button to launch Remote Viewer. I do have both SPICE and VNC display added.

                                When I'm using In-Browser Viewer, I don't get anything.

                                Oh, it was hidden. When I resized my web browser, it showed the "Password Required" box.

                                In order for me to see that, I have to resize my web browser every time. If it's maximized, I have to un-maximize it, and then maximize it again, or resize it any way period to get it to show. Weird.

                                Hmm. I don't have that issue. That's interesting.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Anyone know if Fedora 28 has KVM management built in to the default Cockpit yet, or does it still require additional updates?

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                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    The KVM management is not 100% & yes you still need to update with "dnf install -y cockpit-machines"

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by

                                      @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                      The KVM management is not 100% & yes you still need to update with "dnf install -y cockpit-machines"

                                      Only an extra package is pretty good. Don't need to go to a beta version or something.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller No beta at all. Either way, you still need virt-manager or virsh for complete control during setup of your vm's.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by JaredBusch

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                          @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                          The KVM management is not 100% & yes you still need to update with "dnf install -y cockpit-machines"

                                          Only an extra package is pretty good. Don't need to go to a beta version or something.

                                          Not exactly. As of Fedora 27, the default cockpit install, if you select it during the GUI install, is not a complete cockpit install in the first place.

                                          After getting to the root login, you still need to do dnf install cockpit to get the full package. By default, it only had cockpit-ws and dependencies.

                                          I have not done a clean F28 install and tested tihs.

                                          Let me go spin one up.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            Will update shortly.

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