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    • Emad RE
      Emad R @FATeknollogee
      last edited by Emad R

      @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

      Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

      Yes it does.

      Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @Emad R
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        @emad-r said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

        @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

        Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

        Yes it does.

        Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?

        BRB!

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @Emad R
          last edited by

          @emad-r said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

          @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

          Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

          Yes it does.

          Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?

          0_1503852280958_Screenshot from 2017-08-27 09-44-26.png

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @Emad R
            last edited by

            @emad-r said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

            @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

            Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

            Yes it does.

            Do you have this setup ? can you post screenshot with this feature ?

            Also on Fedora vm's
            0_1503852391011_Screenshot from 2017-08-27 09-45-58.png

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              Francesco Provino @FATeknollogee
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              @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

              @francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

              Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.

              Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?

              Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

              Yes it does.

              @fateknollogee said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

              @francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

              Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.

              Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?

              Maybe for virtualized Windows guest that needs console acces? Does cockpit provides that feature?

              Yes it does.

              I was not aware of the console redirection. Perhaps, it seems more like a link generator for the usual spice/vnc client. I can understand it for windows troubleshooting… no use at all for linux guests.

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              • olivierO
                olivier @Francesco Provino
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                @francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.

                That made me laugh a lot 😄

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @olivier
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                  @olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                  @francesco-provino said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                  Why everybody seems to need a GUI for KVM? Virsh can do absolutely anything, in a much more concise, fast and elegant way. It's also very bandwidth friendly.

                  That made me laugh a lot 😄

                  Why, you agree or disagree with that statement?

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                  • olivierO
                    olivier @FATeknollogee
                    last edited by olivier

                    @fateknollogee The need for UI in Open Source is ultra-important, and I don't get why people don't get it.

                    It's even possible to make some money with that 😉 So when I heard someone telling this, it's really funny and remind me some disdain I met in the past when I started Xen Orchestra.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @olivier
                      last edited by FATeknollogee

                      @olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                      @fateknollogee The need for UI in Open Source is ultra-important, and I don't get why people don't get it.

                      Well said... @olivier
                      This is exactly what I said (in a prev post)..."Because some of us "just" want it. Why it this so hard for some of you to understand?"

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                      • olivierO
                        olivier
                        last edited by

                        It's hard to understand because sometimes there is a difference between being a tech person mastering a technology and being able to understand users need.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee
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                          @olivier Can't you make XOA manage KVM via integration with Cockpit?
                          That would be a killer product!!

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                          • olivierO
                            olivier
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                            Can't be everywhere 😛 And this seems less fancy that communicating with KVM directly. Sadly, last time I inspected the "state of KVM APIs", it was far from XAPI features 😞 (in an agentless point of view)

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              Then let XOA communicate directly with KVM !
                              Who says you can't be everywhere?

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                              • olivierO
                                olivier @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @fateknollogee 1. Because KVM APIs are really light (like "pure" Xen APIs).
                                2. This will require hiring 10 people approx for 1y.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @olivier
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                                  @olivier said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                  @fateknollogee 1. Because KVM APIs are really light (like "pure" Xen APIs).
                                  2. This will require hiring 10 people approx for 1y.

                                  10 people for a year for beer and food seems like a good investment.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates
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                                    CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                                    0_1505595593212_console.png

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @stacksofplates
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                                      @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                      CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                                      0_1505595593212_console.png

                                      Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

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                                      • matteo nunziatiM
                                        matteo nunziati @Obsolesce
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                                        @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                        CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                                        0_1505595593212_console.png

                                        Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

                                        well it depends on cockpit for the most. there are vnc web implementations out there, like in kimchi.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                          CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                                          0_1505595593212_console.png

                                          Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

                                          If you only have SPICE it makes you run through virt-viewer. Currently I don't know of a way to do it.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @stacksofplates
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                                            @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                            @tim_g said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Manage KVM through Cockpit:

                                            CentOS 7 now has the VM console as long as the VM has VNC graphics. You don't need to remove SPICE, you can just add VNC also.

                                            0_1505595593212_console.png

                                            Can it work like that in the browser with spice?

                                            If you only have SPICE it makes you run through virt-viewer. Currently I don't know of a way to do it.

                                            Okay yeah, that's what I was getting at.

                                            It would be nice via Cockpit web console... perfect actually, rather than having to do the whole Kimchi thing.

                                            I've just had best luck all around with Spice. But for non-gui VMs, VNC would work.

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