Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch
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@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
So I found the licensing for the Meraki Switches.
Pricing is as low as $350/year for a single year.
Ubiquiti has no licensing cost at all and is substantially cheaper, so why. . .
Meraki is really something we never consider since Ubiquiti came out. If you need something bigger than Ubiquiti, then Merkai is not the right product either.
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@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@scottalanmiller said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@travisdh1 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
The Meraki gear was never knocked because it lacked performance. It's the value/price that sucks.
Oh no, performance is lackluster, too.
Lackluster compared to the price? Or just in general?
According to each companies data sheets, Meraki does out perform Ubiquiti by a bit.
Everything in IT is based on price. A Meraki for similar price to other things on the market is very slow.
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@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
So I found the licensing for the Meraki Switches.
Pricing is as low as $350/year for a single year.
Ubiquiti has no licensing cost at all and is substantially cheaper, so why. . .
And this is the conclusion that Scott came to and posted about - what, 5 years ago?
Not so long
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@scottalanmiller said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
So I found the licensing for the Meraki Switches.
Pricing is as low as $350/year for a single year.
Ubiquiti has no licensing cost at all and is substantially cheaper, so why. . .
And this is the conclusion that Scott came to and posted about - what, 5 years ago?
Not so long
But a while ago.It's at least 3.
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For the list price of 1 Meraki I could get 10.4 Ubiquiti switches.
That's insane!
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Does the Edge line need a controller or anything else? Anything I'm not seeing as something required or recommended for them?
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@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
For the list price of 1 Meraki I could get 10.4 Ubiquiti switches.
That's insane!
wait, what? I thought you said it was $350? You found EdgeSwitches for under $35/ea? What port counts are you talking about here?
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@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
Does the Edge line need a controller or anything else? Anything I'm not seeing as something required or recommended for them?
it need nothing.
But if not already, will soon probably be able to use UNMS if you want to centrally manage them.
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@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
For the list price of 1 Meraki I could get 10.4 Ubiquiti switches.
That's insane!
wait, what? I thought you said it was $350? You found EdgeSwitches for under $35/ea? What port counts are you talking about here?
No, $350 was just the meraki License. The unit it's self list for close to $7500
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@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
For the list price of 1 Meraki I could get 10.4 Ubiquiti switches.
That's insane!
wait, what? I thought you said it was $350? You found EdgeSwitches for under $35/ea? What port counts are you talking about here?
No, $350 was just the meraki License. The unit it's self list for close to $7500
cought for what?
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@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dustinb3403 said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
For the list price of 1 Meraki I could get 10.4 Ubiquiti switches.
That's insane!
wait, what? I thought you said it was $350? You found EdgeSwitches for under $35/ea? What port counts are you talking about here?
No, $350 was just the meraki License. The unit it's self list for close to $7500
cought for what?
The MS250-48 list for $7500, on top of that you need to purchase the license which on the low end was $350/year.
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https://i.imgur.com/PLwzzxp.png
Does this mean the switch has some form of UTM or that the controller at Meraki does, and this switch can just tie in.
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@dashrender You do remember "2 month's free" right. . . ?
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@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
https://i.imgur.com/PLwzzxp.png
Does this mean the switch has some form of UTM or that the controller at Meraki does, and this switch can just tie in.
They can do some UTM... but when I was using them it was completely port and destination based. As in, we see all of this traffic going to facebook.com over port 443.
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@coliver said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
https://i.imgur.com/PLwzzxp.png
Does this mean the switch has some form of UTM or that the controller at Meraki does, and this switch can just tie in.
They can do some UTM... but when I was using them it was completely port and destination based. As in, we see all of this traffic going to facebook.com over port 443.
not that it matters, but my question would be - is it killed the the closest part to the user, or is it killed at the firewall on outbound traffic?
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@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@coliver said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
https://i.imgur.com/PLwzzxp.png
Does this mean the switch has some form of UTM or that the controller at Meraki does, and this switch can just tie in.
They can do some UTM... but when I was using them it was completely port and destination based. As in, we see all of this traffic going to facebook.com over port 443.
not that it matters, but my question would be - is it killed the the closest part to the user, or is it killed at the firewall on outbound traffic?
What do you mean? I used the wrong term. The switches do packet inspection based on destination and port. You can do dropping at the switch level or at the firewall level. But you can do that on most enterprise switches, even the Netgear I was using at the last job could do that.
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@coliver said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@coliver said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
https://i.imgur.com/PLwzzxp.png
Does this mean the switch has some form of UTM or that the controller at Meraki does, and this switch can just tie in.
They can do some UTM... but when I was using them it was completely port and destination based. As in, we see all of this traffic going to facebook.com over port 443.
not that it matters, but my question would be - is it killed the the closest part to the user, or is it killed at the firewall on outbound traffic?
What do you mean? I used the wrong term. The switches do packet inspection based on destination and port. You can do dropping at the switch level or at the firewall level. But you can do that on most enterprise switches, even the Netgear I was using at the last job could do that.
Aww, i've never had the need, so didn't know.
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@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@coliver said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@coliver said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
https://i.imgur.com/PLwzzxp.png
Does this mean the switch has some form of UTM or that the controller at Meraki does, and this switch can just tie in.
They can do some UTM... but when I was using them it was completely port and destination based. As in, we see all of this traffic going to facebook.com over port 443.
not that it matters, but my question would be - is it killed the the closest part to the user, or is it killed at the firewall on outbound traffic?
What do you mean? I used the wrong term. The switches do packet inspection based on destination and port. You can do dropping at the switch level or at the firewall level. But you can do that on most enterprise switches, even the Netgear I was using at the last job could do that.
Aww, i've never had the need, so didn't know.
It's not really something I've ever used. Just part of an ACL you can drop into place. Our network team here uses that functionality fairly extensively.
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@coliver said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@coliver said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@coliver said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
@dashrender said in Meraki MS2** series vs Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch:
https://i.imgur.com/PLwzzxp.png
Does this mean the switch has some form of UTM or that the controller at Meraki does, and this switch can just tie in.
They can do some UTM... but when I was using them it was completely port and destination based. As in, we see all of this traffic going to facebook.com over port 443.
not that it matters, but my question would be - is it killed the the closest part to the user, or is it killed at the firewall on outbound traffic?
What do you mean? I used the wrong term. The switches do packet inspection based on destination and port. You can do dropping at the switch level or at the firewall level. But you can do that on most enterprise switches, even the Netgear I was using at the last job could do that.
Aww, i've never had the need, so didn't know.
It's not really something I've ever used. Just part of an ACL you can drop into place. Our network team here uses that functionality fairly extensively.
Perhaps my new Unifi switches can do it, my old HP's were rather limited, I don't think they could do something like this.
