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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      And the part that matters (besides the finger pointing).

      "In the end, SMA patched the vulnerabilities in its kit, fixes are rolling out, energy grid bosses agreed to get the matter onto the agenda at their next security conference, and governments agreed to coordinate to harden up their systems, we're told. "

      So hopefully they've got patches coming, but damn guys. . .

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

        The list of vulnerabilities seems to go on forever. . . why would they not hire anyone to look at the code before releasing the product?

        Is there even a way to update the code remotely. . .

        Because IoT.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

          And the part that matters (besides the finger pointing).

          "In the end, SMA patched the vulnerabilities in its kit, fixes are rolling out, energy grid bosses agreed to get the matter onto the agenda at their next security conference, and governments agreed to coordinate to harden up their systems, we're told. "

          So hopefully they've got patches coming, but damn guys. . .

          If they don't, I guarantee someone will 😉

          You know, since it is open for public patching.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

            @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

            And the part that matters (besides the finger pointing).

            "In the end, SMA patched the vulnerabilities in its kit, fixes are rolling out, energy grid bosses agreed to get the matter onto the agenda at their next security conference, and governments agreed to coordinate to harden up their systems, we're told. "

            So hopefully they've got patches coming, but damn guys. . .

            If they don't, I guarantee someone will 😉

            You know, since it is open for public patching.

            That's the most insane part. You can change the firmware on the device, just by being on the same LAN! wtf. . .

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce
              last edited by

              Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                  @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                  Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                  Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

                  If you're on the network and you haven't hacked your way onto that, how could they claim you broke in and did something illegal?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                    @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                    Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                    Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

                    If you're on the network and you haven't hacked your way onto that, how could they claim you broke in and did something illegal?

                    Have you ever been to the US?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                      @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                      @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                      Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                      Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

                      If you're on the network and you haven't hacked your way onto that, how could they claim you broke in and did something illegal?

                      Have you ever been to the US?

                      I have, just have never had to deal with the "law" personally.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                        @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                        @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                        Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                        Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

                        If you're on the network and you haven't hacked your way onto that, how could they claim you broke in and did something illegal?

                        Have you ever been to the US?

                        I have, just have never had to deal with the "law" personally.

                        Hacking doesn't require breaking into anything. Hacking includes bullying a receptionist to let you into a building. Hacking includes going through a private trash. Hacking includes looking at sticky notes for passwords. You touch something you aren't "supposed to" and you can go to jail for hacking. And ask Mitnick, it doesn't require a computer, having done anything nefarious or a trial.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                          @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                          The list of vulnerabilities seems to go on forever. . . why would they not hire anyone to look at the code before releasing the product?

                          Is there even a way to update the code remotely. . .

                          Because IoT.

                          Crawl back in your damned hole.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                            @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                            Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                            Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

                            Yeah - Steve Gibson claimed that he went to the FBI and asked about making a virus that would find Code Red machines and patch them. He was told no, it's illegal.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                              @dashrender said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                              The list of vulnerabilities seems to go on forever. . . why would they not hire anyone to look at the code before releasing the product?

                              Is there even a way to update the code remotely. . .

                              Because IoT.

                              Crawl back in your damned hole.

                              clearly you didn't see it as the joke it was meant to be.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                                Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

                                Yeah - Steve Gibson claimed that he went to the FBI and asked about making a virus that would find Code Red machines and patch them. He was told no, it's illegal.

                                Just showing why you should not listen to him. He actually asked that? How out of touch is he?

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @dashrender said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                  @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                  Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                                  Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

                                  Yeah - Steve Gibson claimed that he went to the FBI and asked about making a virus that would find Code Red machines and patch them. He was told no, it's illegal.

                                  More importantly it would make it that much more difficult for the FBI and other agencies to hack into those machines. . .

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @dashrender said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                    @jaredbusch said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                    @dashrender said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                    The list of vulnerabilities seems to go on forever. . . why would they not hire anyone to look at the code before releasing the product?

                                    Is there even a way to update the code remotely. . .

                                    Because IoT.

                                    Crawl back in your damned hole.

                                    clearly you didn't see it as the joke it was meant to be.

                                    How could anyone who follows your conversations on IoT think that is a joke?

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                                    • jt1001001J
                                      jt1001001
                                      last edited by

                                      Aarugh. I just signed up for solar and Didn't even THINK of this. (banging head on wall). Going to add that to the new list of questions for the installer.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @jt1001001
                                        last edited by

                                        @jt1001001 said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                        Aarugh. I just signed up for solar and Didn't even THINK of this. (banging head on wall). Going to add that to the new list of questions for the installer.

                                        I don't think many people thought of it. . .

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                          @dashrender said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                          @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                          Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                                          Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

                                          Yeah - Steve Gibson claimed that he went to the FBI and asked about making a virus that would find Code Red machines and patch them. He was told no, it's illegal.

                                          Just showing why you should not listen to him. He actually asked that? How out of touch is he?

                                          He claims to have friends there - so yes I'm sure he asked someone, did he officially ask? who knows.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @dashrender said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                            @dashrender said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                            @tim_g said in Hackers could exploit solar power equipment flaws to cripple green grids:

                                            Maybe a white-hat will "hack" in and patch it... why not?

                                            Because... better things to do 🙂 And it still gets you arrested, so not worth the risk.

                                            Yeah - Steve Gibson claimed that he went to the FBI and asked about making a virus that would find Code Red machines and patch them. He was told no, it's illegal.

                                            Just showing why you should not listen to him. He actually asked that? How out of touch is he?

                                            He claims to have friends there - so yes I'm sure he asked someone, did he officially ask? who knows.

                                            Still pretty silly. I have cop friends, I don't ask them if kicking down the neighbour's front door is legal. The issue is not that he has access to the FBI, but that he has to ask the FBI about things so basic. Is this is first day working in IT?

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