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    • coliverC
      coliver @RojoLoco
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      @rojoloco said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

      My last experience with tapes was the utterly useless LTO 4 or 5. Took days to back up, then restores didn't work at all. And 3/5 backup jobs failed, usually some sort of tape error. I've never had success with tape and I'm pretty sure my company would not invest any more $$$ is tape systems, even "modern" ones.

      Were you using using backupexec by chance?

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @RojoLoco
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        @rojoloco said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

        My last experience with tapes was the utterly useless LTO 4 or 5. Took days to back up, then restores didn't work at all. And 3/5 backup jobs failed, usually some sort of tape error. I've never had success with tape and I'm pretty sure my company would not invest any more $$$ is tape systems, even "modern" ones.

        When I was using them in the mid 90s to early 00s, they were slow, but would restore reliably. You had to take care of the drives correctly, but we never had a problem with the drives..... Backup Exec, now that's a whole different story!

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco @coliver
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          @coliver Yes, and the owner was loath to buy something else after dumping a bunch of money into BE, so that was likely the culprit. But now we have 3x big, fast DAS boxes with tons of storage for backups. No DR plan, but lots of fast storage now.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @RojoLoco
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            @rojoloco said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

            @coliver Yes, and the owner was loath to buy something else after dumping a bunch of money into BE, so that was likely the culprit. But now we have 3x big, fast DAS boxes with tons of storage for backups. No DR plan, but lots of fast storage now.

            Yep... anytime I hear about someone having issues with backup it generally means they were using Backupexec.... It was notorious when I was starting out (granted not that long ago) for mangling tapes.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              This reminds me of the solid state drive announcement what must be 15 years ago now.. 😉

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              • coliverC
                coliver @Dashrender
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                @dashrender said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                This reminds me of the solid state drive announcement what must be 15 years ago now.. 😉

                I was still in high school when that was announced for "consumer" usage. Actually may have been 8th grade or freshman year.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @coliver
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                  @coliver said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                  @dashrender said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                  This reminds me of the solid state drive announcement what must be 15 years ago now.. 😉

                  I was still in high school when that was announced for "consumer" usage. Actually may have been 8th grade or freshman year.

                  eh? you were in high school when consumer used SSD were announced? UH.. ok perhaps my old man brain is off - it could have been more like 1998 when ( I think it was IBM) announced an all solid state drive in the lab. It was a pretty amazing thing to consider back then.. now days - meh 😛

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @coliver
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                    @coliver said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                    @rojoloco said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                    @coliver Yes, and the owner was loath to buy something else after dumping a bunch of money into BE, so that was likely the culprit. But now we have 3x big, fast DAS boxes with tons of storage for backups. No DR plan, but lots of fast storage now.

                    Yep... anytime I hear about someone having issues with backup it generally means they were using Backupexec.... It was notorious when I was starting out (granted not that long ago) for mangling tapes.

                    I used many versions of BE, from Veritas to Symantec back to Veritas. The BE product I rarely had issue with, the other backup products Symantec came out with were a whole other story.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Dashrender
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                      @dashrender said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                      @coliver said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                      @dashrender said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                      This reminds me of the solid state drive announcement what must be 15 years ago now.. 😉

                      I was still in high school when that was announced for "consumer" usage. Actually may have been 8th grade or freshman year.

                      eh? you were in high school when consumer used SSD were announced? UH.. ok perhaps my old man brain is off - it could have been more like 1998 when ( I think it was IBM) announced an all solid state drive in the lab. It was a pretty amazing thing to consider back then.. now days - meh 😛

                      Yes, when consumer SSDs were announced long before they were affordable I was just going into highschool... 98... would have been Elementary?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @coliver
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                        @coliver said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                        @dashrender said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                        @coliver said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                        @dashrender said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                        This reminds me of the solid state drive announcement what must be 15 years ago now.. 😉

                        I was still in high school when that was announced for "consumer" usage. Actually may have been 8th grade or freshman year.

                        eh? you were in high school when consumer used SSD were announced? UH.. ok perhaps my old man brain is off - it could have been more like 1998 when ( I think it was IBM) announced an all solid state drive in the lab. It was a pretty amazing thing to consider back then.. now days - meh 😛

                        Yes, when consumer SSDs were announced long before they were affordable I was just going into highschool... 98... would have been Elementary?

                        yeah i guess Intel announces those Extreme Processors for consumers, but they definitely were NEVER affordable. More like a mortgage. lol

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                          @dashrender said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                          This reminds me of the solid state drive announcement what must be 15 years ago now.. 😉

                          I was still in high school when that was announced for "consumer" usage. Actually may have been 8th grade or freshman year.

                          Get off my lawn!

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            I was halfway through elementary when the 3.5" floppy disk was announced.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                              I was halfway through elementary when the 3.5" floppy disk was announced.

                              Wait, you had a formal education?!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                @dustinb3403 said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                                @scottalanmiller said in IBM and Sony Team Up for 330TB Tape Technology:

                                I was halfway through elementary when the 3.5" floppy disk was announced.

                                Wait, you had a formal education?!

                                Only through eighth grade 😉

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  It was all formal, no education.

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