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    • bigbearB
      bigbear @RestoronixSean
      last edited by

      @restoronixsean The reason nothing ends up decentralized anymore, outside of investor interests, has a lot to do with the fact that it's just easier to control a closed ecosystem. Its harder to build compatible moving parts and keep them upgrade.

      The biggest recent thing in memory would be Open Whisper Systems.

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      • LakshmanaL
        Lakshmana @RojoLoco
        last edited by

        @rojoloco said in Bitcoin:

        @scottalanmiller said in Bitcoin:

        @lakshmana said in Bitcoin:

        @scottalanmiller said in Bitcoin:

        I think that we need to step back. In the OP you were asking what Bitcoin was. Now you are acting like you might be interested in using it. But ask yourself... why?

        I was interested to know more about it first.since I didn't used before in my day-to-day life.so now interested how to use?

        I would avoid it. The theory is great, I'm glad that people play with it and it's important to have decentralized currencies i the world - but unless your are a drug dealer, I see zero reason to be interested in actually using it.

        Hey now, human traffickers use Bitcoin too...

        Who are Human traffickers?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
          last edited by

          @lakshmana said in Bitcoin:

          @rojoloco said in Bitcoin:

          @scottalanmiller said in Bitcoin:

          @lakshmana said in Bitcoin:

          @scottalanmiller said in Bitcoin:

          I think that we need to step back. In the OP you were asking what Bitcoin was. Now you are acting like you might be interested in using it. But ask yourself... why?

          I was interested to know more about it first.since I didn't used before in my day-to-day life.so now interested how to use?

          I would avoid it. The theory is great, I'm glad that people play with it and it's important to have decentralized currencies i the world - but unless your are a drug dealer, I see zero reason to be interested in actually using it.

          Hey now, human traffickers use Bitcoin too...

          Who are Human traffickers?

          People who ship slaves.

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          • wrx7mW
            wrx7m
            last edited by

            It seems that bitcoin needs to mature quite a bit before I would consider using it. Coins simply disappearing because of a glitch with no way to recover is insane.

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            • LakshmanaL
              Lakshmana @wrx7m
              last edited by

              @wrx7m Coins disappearing may be a business behind it who knows ?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                last edited by

                @wrx7m said in Bitcoin:

                It seems that bitcoin needs to mature quite a bit before I would consider using it. Coins simply disappearing because of a glitch with no way to recover is insane.

                Not "exactly" a glitch. They've put out a warning that it was coming due to a planned change.

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                • wrx7mW
                  wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller - I see. However, that is still a deal-breaker for me.

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                  • bigbearB
                    bigbear @wrx7m
                    last edited by bigbear

                    @wrx7m said in Bitcoin:

                    It seems that bitcoin needs to mature quite a bit before I would consider using it. Coins simply disappearing because of a glitch with no way to recover is insane.

                    If you have bitcoins and dont know about this chances are that you are safer than more advanced BTC users are. Your coins are probably already stored by a bank that is part of the NYA crowd.

                    Also, if you aren't moving or spending coins in the months to come there is no chance of replay/loss of your BTC. And if you are spending them there are just extra steps to ensure someone else doesn't screw you over.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                      last edited by

                      @wrx7m said in Bitcoin:

                      @scottalanmiller - I see. However, that is still a deal-breaker for me.

                      I agree, I'm not going to touch it.

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
                        last edited by

                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/officials-arrest-suspect-in-4-billion-bitcoin-money-laundering-scheme/

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                        • s.hacklemanS
                          s.hackleman
                          last edited by

                          Just my two cents I thought about buying when it was at $0.10 and I didn't Then it hit $200 a coin. So I said "I'm not doing that again, so I put my money where my mouth is and bought when it was $250 a coin. I buy $10-15 a week, nothing more than I am ok with loosing. Right now it is at $2,500 a bitcoin. I have bought a few things, but for the most part it is just a play hobby. I currently own .400 of 1 bitcoin. I know it could all go up in flames, but a 10 fold investment isn't a bad side hobby to have. I suggest everyone who wants to learn about it, buy in, but never spend more money than you would be ok with loosing.

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                          • s.hacklemanS
                            s.hackleman
                            last edited by

                            Also every argument about how bitcoin is scary or used for illegal purposes also applies to paper cash, and I will bet most people who say it is just used for criminals also have a just in case $20 in their back pocket. For me it is nice having a little side money that can easily be used in an emergency in any country on the planet and not linked to any government or overseeing body and can not be taken from me.

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                            • LakshmanaL
                              Lakshmana @s.hackleman
                              last edited by

                              @s-hackleman How to do that ?

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                              • bigbearB
                                bigbear
                                last edited by

                                Well, I guess NOT through BTC Exchange anymore...

                                https://www.coindesk.com/110-million-btc-e-fined-us-vows-crackdown-unregulated-exchanges/

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear
                                  last edited by

                                  I normally wouldnt promote a bank, but given the state of transition we are in, and assuming you are looking to get in on the action with rising BTC values, I would go with Xapo.

                                  Xapo was founded by a couple of the Paypal Mafia guys (Reid, who also founded Linkedin, and that other guy who founded Affirm)

                                  Coinbase is also very reliable.

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                                  • LakshmanaL
                                    Lakshmana @bigbear
                                    last edited by

                                    @bigbear As per the last threads if the vault vanishes money also vanishes Right ?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                                      last edited by

                                      @lakshmana said in Bitcoin:

                                      @bigbear As per the last threads if the vault vanishes money also vanishes Right ?

                                      Yup

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @Lakshmana
                                        last edited by

                                        @lakshmana said in Bitcoin:

                                        @bigbear As per the last threads if the vault vanishes money also vanishes Right ?

                                        Exactly.

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                                        • s.hacklemanS
                                          s.hackleman @Lakshmana
                                          last edited by

                                          @lakshmana You need to find an exchange that accepts your currency. I have advice if you are using dollar in the United States, but if I recall you are in India, so i'm not sure. I would seek advice from a trustworthy community for bitcoin in your region. I follow /r/bitcoin on reddit, maybe those guys could help you out.

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                                          • bigbearB
                                            bigbear
                                            last edited by

                                            Sure but you are more likely to screw up your own wallet during the transition than to see Xapo vanish. They are well known venture capitalist with well known backing. It would be the same level of security as storing your money in Paypal.

                                            Mt Gox had not clout at all like Xapo.

                                            And again, if you wanting to learn about BTC and use a couple mBTC thats one thing. If you are investing in BTC I am suggesting it will be all around easier and safer to use someone like Xapo or Coinbase. And again, the people behind Xapo are not going to dissapear.

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