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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      If you have SIP based VoIP, you can dial this test service to see direct SIP dialing in action...

      [email protected]
      
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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

        If you have SIP based VoIP, you can dial this test service to see direct SIP dialing in action...

        [email protected]

        And there you go.
        Most consumers don't have SIP based VOIP access at this point. They'd have to buy and strap it onto something they have today.

        I'm assuming the cellphones can plug right into this, especially through an app that they then register with a SIP service.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

          @dbeato said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

          Very nice article. I have been debating this for years. So healthcare practices think a Fax machine makes them HIPAA compliant because it doesn't require encryption...

          Pretty much, yes.

          As you know, with all things HIPAA, there often are no rules or specific guidelines. A small shop has different criteria than a huge healthcare system.

          I am sure if the fax machine was out in the waiting room, that would be a violation. If it is behind the counter where patients should not be able to access it, it is probably as secure as it can be.

          Whether or not this is truly secure has nothing to do with actual security, rather just falling in line to the HIPAA regulation. Again, as you know @scottalanmiller because you have said this many times.

          It's the same reason postal mail is considered HIPAA compliant. But really, how secure is postal mail? It's not.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

            @scottalanmiller said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

            If you have SIP based VoIP, you can dial this test service to see direct SIP dialing in action...

            [email protected]
            

            And there you go.
            Most consumers don't have SIP based VOIP access at this point. They'd have to buy and strap it onto something they have today.

            I'm assuming the cellphones can plug right into this, especially through an app that they then register with a SIP service.

            Don't they? Just... install the app and go. There is no "SIP Service" in SIP calling. You don't need a PBX or server. Just fire up any SIP client, or buy a desk phone and add a DNS entry (DDNS often needed.)

            It's within the most casual reach of anyone. And for making calls you don't even need the DDNS piece.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

              I am sure if the fax machine was out in the waiting room, that would be a violation. If it is behind the counter where patients should not be able to access it, it is probably as secure as it can be.

              That's like having a computer, with no logins, that is always up displaying emails that anyone walking past can see and, by swiping their hand over, gets a copy in their pocket. There is no real world ability to make email as insecure as "about as secured as it gets" fax.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                Whether or not this is truly secure has nothing to do with actual security, rather just falling in line to the HIPAA regulation.

                I truly believe any auditor or judge allowing fax is corruption. It does not meet any letter or intent of HIPAA guidelines and is a blatant mocking of the security of the American public. HIPAA was designed for the purpose of making it possible to prosecute people doing things specifically like faxing. It's been abused by those in power to do exactly the opposite, it's been used to curtail security and protect the worst abusers.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                  @BRRABill said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                  Whether or not this is truly secure has nothing to do with actual security, rather just falling in line to the HIPAA regulation.

                  I truly believe any auditor or judge allowing fax is corruption. It does not meet any letter or intent of HIPAA guidelines and is a blatant mocking of the security of the American public. HIPAA was designed for the purpose of making it possible to prosecute people doing things specifically like faxing. It's been abused by those in power to do exactly the opposite, it's been used to curtail security and protect the worst abusers.

                  OK, but we are talking about HIPAA here, right?

                  P.S. Are you getting paid by some strange company to use the word "corruption" this week?

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                    @BRRABill said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                    Whether or not this is truly secure has nothing to do with actual security, rather just falling in line to the HIPAA regulation.

                    I truly believe any auditor or judge allowing fax is corruption. It does not meet any letter or intent of HIPAA guidelines and is a blatant mocking of the security of the American public. HIPAA was designed for the purpose of making it possible to prosecute people doing things specifically like faxing. It's been abused by those in power to do exactly the opposite, it's been used to curtail security and protect the worst abusers.

                    OK, but we are talking about HIPAA here, right?

                    P.S. Are you getting paid by some strange company to use the word "corruption" this week?

                    Didn't you get the latest drinking game memo. Good thing I don't play, I wouldn't be able to stand up this week!

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                      P.S. Are you getting paid by some strange company to use the word "corruption" this week?

                      Calling it as it is. The world is a very corrupt place and most of it happens because society conditions us to feel like it is acceptable.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                        @BRRABill said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                        P.S. Are you getting paid by some strange company to use the word "corruption" this week?

                        Calling it as it is. The world is a very corrupt place and most of it happens because society conditions us to feel like it is acceptable.

                        And there it is ... AGAIN! 🙂

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                          @BRRABill said in Comparing Fax and Email Security:

                          P.S. Are you getting paid by some strange company to use the word "corruption" this week?

                          Calling it as it is. The world is a very corrupt place and most of it happens because society conditions us to feel like it is acceptable.

                          And there it is ... AGAIN! 🙂

                          Society hasn't changed, it's just how it is.

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